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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Can you be more specific on where excactly the feeling occurs.
Is It at skin to transducer contact. Or opposite site of the shaft, inside the shaft?

Did you use some sort of backing medium or the shaft all exposed to air or in touch with extender or something.

Sorry…

The zap is at skin to transducer contact.

I am using a vac hanger, draping my shaft over my leg and using my leg as the backing. It is possible, and even likely, that there are some small gaps at certain points of the shaft/leg junction. It’s hard/impossible to say if the zap is directly over where a gap may be. I suppose I could take that out by applying gel to the shaft/leg junction.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Sorry…

The zap is at skin to transducer contact.

I am using a vac hanger, draping my shaft over my leg and using my leg as the backing. It is possible, and even likely, that there are some small gaps at certain points of the shaft/leg junction. It’s hard/impossible to say if the zap is directly over where a gap may be. I suppose I could take that out by applying gel to the shaft/leg junction.

I really think you are finding improvement using more gel and making better, firm transducer to shaft and shaft to leg contact.
Those gap junctions and small air pockets can be felt like described in the skin. Not serious but annoying and sometimes can be quite strong pinching like feel.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I really think you are finding improvement using more gel and making better, firm transducer to shaft and shaft to leg contact.
Those gap junctions and small air pockets can be felt like described in the skin. Not serious but annoying and sometimes can be quite strong pinching like feel.

Ok - will do- thank you very much.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Has anyone used US to increase girth? I.e. Combined with a penis pump routine, or clamp? If so, what were your results. I want to have a length and girth routine during a US session.

Is US the equivalent to acoustic wave therapy (such as the Phoenix)?

WM12


12/31/17 BPEL = 6 1/4” MEG = 5”

08/19/18 BPEL = 7 3/8” MEG = 5 1/8”

07/25/22 Bpel = 7” Meg = 5 1/8”

Originally Posted by Denmark12
Has anyone used US to increase girth? I.e. Combined with a penis pump routine, or clamp? If so, what were your results. I want to have a length and girth routine during a US session.

AFAIK, some folks have tried but haven’t had too much success beyond regular girth exercises so far.

Kyrpa is, however, from what I understand, developing a water pump with transducers inside, to try to use during his next campaign. Which seems really awesome.

I think you could probably get some benefit from using an infrared heating pad during pumping or clamping.

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
AFAIK, some folks have tried but haven’t had too much success beyond regular girth exercises so far.

Kyrpa is, however, from what I understand, developing a water pump with transducers inside, to try to use during his next campaign. Which seems really awesome.

I think you could probably get some benefit from using an infrared heating pad during pumping or clamping.

Interesting. Just would make sense to use it while clamping and increasing internal pressure.

Originally Posted by Wantmore12
Is US the equivalent to acoustic wave therapy (such as the Phoenix)?

WM12


No it is a different type of ultrasound. The family of ultrasound therapies covers a large range of frequencies and energy output. Some are for restorative therapy others in the family are destructive (kidney stones, tumours).

The full name of acoustic wave therapy is low intensity extracorporal shock wave therapy, or li-eswt.

Better description can be found here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p … les/PMC3810427/


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.75” BPEL; 7.25” NBPEL; 8.25” BPFSL; 6.25” - 6.5” MEG w/ c-ring.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

I know of a guy who uses an RF device. He records his sessions and posts. He uses RF as a heating device.

He heats then immediately steps in a pump wrapped in a heating pad. He’s gotten some gains.

Originally Posted by Denmark12
Interesting. Just would make sense to use it while clamping and increasing internal pressure.

The problem with this is that heating up stationary blood killing those cells and leaving them inside the body is not a good idea. Using US while flaccid allows that blood to warm up but flow freely.

Bring that guy using RF to the forums, as our friend here Tutt has done extensive research with RF for this purpose.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
The problem with this is that heating up stationary blood killing those cells and leaving them inside the body is not a good idea. Using US while flaccid allows that blood to warm up but flow freely.

Hmmmm, okay that sounds logical. I’ll search the forums for those who have used RF for girth.

It terms of the man I’m referring to, not sure if I can convince him to partake in the forum. Yet below is a link to a video of one of his RF sessions:

Ultrasound Captivation Therapy… Perhaps The Most Effective Way to Degrade The Tunica : gettingbigger

Wasn’t planning on providing any updates here for a while, but learned a few things that may help others so…

Had a GREAT US day today. I reached 20.5cm post treatment - still not an all time high, but up from 20cm in just 7 treatments. As Igigi noted early in his journey, I’m having a fuller penis all day and my flacid state is definitely larger throughout the day since starting this.

I wasn’t getting consistent temps and maintaining it well, and I was getting pinch feelings as I operated the US.

As Kyrpa recommended I applied gel between leg and dorsal side of shaft, and also figured through trial and error that I wasn’t pressing down with the head of the device hard enough - perhaps I was worried about pinching and subconsciously not applying enough force. As soon as I consistently used firm pressure, then heat became consistent and I was able to maintain 42C for more than 10 minutes. Also, no more pinching or zapping feeling. Lastly, I noted that when pressure wasn’t firm enough, there was a light buzzing sound coming from the head of the device.

One question - I exceeded 45 briefly a couple of times on one channel and not sure where the top threshold should be. What is the guideline? I am trying for between 41-45C as of now.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Wasn’t planning on providing any updates here for a while, but learned a few things that may help others so…

Had a GREAT US day today. I reached 20.5cm post treatment - still not an all time high, but up from 20cm in just 7 treatments. As Igigi noted early in his journey, I’m having a fuller penis all day and my flacid state is definitely larger throughout the day since starting this.

I wasn’t getting consistent temps and maintaining it well, and I was getting pinch feelings as I operated the US.

As Kyrpa recommended I applied gel between leg and dorsal side of shaft, and also figured through trial and error that I wasn’t pressing down with the head of the device hard enough - perhaps I was worried about pinching and subconsciously not applying enough force. As soon as I consistently used firm pressure, then heat became consistent and I was able to maintain 42C for more than 10 minutes. Also, no more pinching or zapping feeling. Lastly, I noted that when pressure wasn’t firm enough, there was a light buzzing sound coming from the head of the device.

One question - I exceeded 45 briefly a couple of times on one channel and not sure where the top threshold should be. What is the guideline? I am trying for between 41-45C as of now.

You are progressing.

Keep the target at 42C with enough movement not to exceed 44C on brief peak temperatures.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
You are progressing.

Keep the target at 42C with enough movement not to exceed 44C on brief peak temperatures.

Will do. Thank you.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by 32quarters
No it is a different type of ultrasound. The family of ultrasound therapies covers a large range of frequencies and energy output. Some are for restorative therapy others in the family are destructive (kidney stones, tumours).

The full name of acoustic wave therapy is low intensity extracorporal shock wave therapy, or li-eswt.

Better description can be found here:
https://www.ncb i.nlm.nih.gov/p … les/PMC3810427/

Do we know what effect this would have on men who don’t have ED?

If it would cause significant and permanent increases in EQ, it would be worth it

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