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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73

Did anyone ever post a picture or example of a phantom designed for use with a stress relaxation extender?

Like this?

US Phantom made of silicone

Originally Posted by Rocco25
Like this?
US Phantom made of silicone

Nice! I’m going to send you a pm

So when making a phantom to use with a stress relaxation extender, should the back of the phantom be curved ? I was thinking the curve of the edge of the penis is part of the reason why the reflection/standing wave is pointed directly back into the US beam. So wouldn’t it be better if the back of the phantom was either flat or curved the opposite way?

Well I did a session today using my stress relaxation extender. I didn’t use a phantom because I don’t have one. Turns out, using the soundcare 3mhz at 2.0w/cm, I didn’t need a phantom anyway.

I wasn’t able to do a full session, though. Basically spent about 5 minutes slowly extending till it was tight, then applied US for about 5 minutes till the penis was hot, and then tried extending it a bit farther while it was heated. Then let it cool for about 5-10 minutes.

Wasn’t able to get a significant amount of extra stretch with the heating, but I think doing a proper session with more like 15mins warm up extending, and then 10 minutes of heating to get even more extension, will probably help with that.

I started my US journey yesterday - big thanks to Igigi for helping me sort out all the details.

I’m using a US Pro 2nd Edition, and vac hanging. I have a Thermocouple Digital Thermometer with 4 channels. I tape the wires to the dorsal side, then hang OTL rotated so that the thermometer is reading temperature between the dorsal side and my leg.

After the second session, I think that I have it pretty much down, although I couldn’t get the thermometer over 41 on more than one part of shaft at a time. It is likely how I have the thermometer channels placed, so I’ll experiment with those.

My routine is:

30 minutes without heat starting at 1lb then adding another 1lb every 8 minutes, but stopping at 4lbs.
20 minutes US treatment at 4lbs.
10 minutes cool down at 5bs.

I haven’t really gained any length in 4-5 months despite consistent FIR heated hanging using the above. I’m hoping this will help break the plateau that I’m on now, but if not then it’s a clear sign that a long decon is necessary.

I’ll report back after a cycle of 4-5 weeks.

Ask any questions, correct me or add any advice - all is appreciated.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Good luck. Hope it works out


Measure for accuracy not for gains

This might sound stupid but has anyone used water instead of the US gel ( hate the gel it gets everywhere ahaha ) , because our main goal is to remove the air between the penis and the transducer ?

Originally Posted by etzioauditor
This might sound stupid but has anyone used water instead of the US gel ( hate the gel it gets everywhere ahaha ) , because our main goal is to remove the air between the penis and the transducer ?

Look into Manko007 trials in his log.
Keep an eye on my next to come campaign, as the intention is to run everything inside water cylinder.

It works, but basically it needs more intensity to produce similar tissue heating effect.

If underwater apply is used the transducer can’t be in skin contact.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 12-07-2021 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Look into Manko007 trials in his log.
Keep an eye on my next to come campaign, as the intention is to run everything inside water cylinder.

It works, but basically it needs more intensity to produce similar tissue heating effect.

If underwater apply is used the transducer can’t be in skin contact.


That sounds amazing Kyrpa , are you engineering a water cylinder where the transducer is movable from outside the cylinder . My main thought with using water is after the US session quickly dry up and get inside an extender or an ADS and keep the stretch for long durations . This still would be possible with the gel , but all of my PE equipment would be covered in the gel or just get sticky even if i cleaned the gel from myself with a towel . Btw what was your reason to find an alternative to the gel ?

Originally Posted by etzioauditor
That sounds amazing Kyrpa , are you engineering a water cylinder where the transducer is movable from outside the cylinder . My main thought with using water is after the US session quickly dry up and get inside an extender or an ADS and keep the stretch for long durations . This still would be possible with the gel , but all of my PE equipment would be covered in the gel or just get sticky even if i cleaned the gel from myself with a towel . Btw what was your reason to find an alternative to the gel ?

Like you, I hate to deal with gel.
Secondly the dual transducer usage should be a lot easier with the water cylinder, as there is no need for the skin contact.

The most important reason is to trial with expansion workouts.
As the same setting can be used for elongation with minor tweaks, there should be lots of advantages.

The equipment is still not ready but in time it Will be laid out in my log.
The problem is that I have ran into several obstacles on the way.
Water proof transducers inside the chamber, movable from outside with a adjustment rod.

Second stage would be trials with magnets to move the transducers around.

I suggest you to consider your strategy twice.
The main practices need to be produced during the heat, not after.
In physical therapy they used your strategy, all against the science. And they consider ultrasound being a low risk, low reward application all because of it.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by etzioauditor
My main thought with using water is after the US session quickly dry up and get inside an extender or an ADS and keep the stretch for long durations .

Maybe I jumped into conclusions not asking you what were your intention to do during the US session?


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Like you, I hate to deal with gel.
Secondly the dual transducer usage should be a lot easier with the water cylinder, as there is no need for the skin contact.

The most important reason is to trial with expansion workouts.
As the same setting can be used for elongation with minor tweaks, there should be lots of advantages.

The equipment is still not ready but in time it Will be laid out in my log.
The problem is that I have ran into several obstacles on the way.
Water proof transducers inside the chamber, movable from outside with a adjustment rod.

Second stage would be trials with magnets to move the transducers around.

I suggest you to consider your strategy twice.
The main practices need to be produced during the heat, not after.
In physical therapy they used your strategy, all against the science. And they consider ultrasound being a low risk, low reward application all because of it.


Ah i understand the heat should be there while the extending happens , but my thought with that was even if the US is removed the heat would stay for a couple of minutes and by that time i would be in my extender . But i think you mean if the elongation accures during the US is active then there is no need to use the extender .

Originally Posted by etzioauditor
Ah i understand the heat should be there while the extending happens , but my thought with that was even if the US is removed the heat would stay for a couple of minutes and by that time i would be in my extender . But i think you mean if the elongation accures during the US is active then there is no need to use the extender .

The time right after the removal of the heat is too important to miss. It is the most important factor of the permanent elongation build-up.
If you were to put your practice work you would need to be in the extender all the way from the start to the end.
Take a bath with the extender and ultrasound so to speak, and leave the extender on after the heat removal.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by scienceguy
Good luck. Hope it works out

Thanks. After day 4 of US my BPFSL is increasing both pre and post, but still have about 8mm before I reach a never-before-seen length on both.

Having some trouble maintaining 41 for more than about 6-8 minutes of the 20 minute US portion of the routine. Could be thermometer IDK. I’m using two channels of the four channel now and can only get one over 41. I can’t imagine using two US devices simultaneously because there’s just not enough real estate to work with.

Lastly, I do get some sort of shock or zap feeling at some points in time that go away when I move the head of the device (I’m using continual circular motion). Is that cavitation?


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99

Lastly, I do get some sort of shock or zap feeling at some points in time that go away when I move the head of the device (I’m using continual circular motion). Is that cavitation?

Can you be more specific on where excactly the feeling occurs.
Is It at skin to transducer contact. Or opposite site of the shaft, inside the shaft?

Did you use some sort of backing medium or the shaft all exposed to air or in touch with extender or something.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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