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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
If the seller can’t provide the BNR value for the machine, buyer is taking tremendous risks.

It means machinery is untested in regards of user safety.

One of the cheap machines I bought off ebay from India even claimed good BNR values. But the machine didn’t match the claims. There is no regulation on those machines, and the sellers will not respond to any complaints. IMO, everyone here should stick to reputable devices.

Originally Posted by Cobra97
I got some bad news. You remember how I told you that my left testicle got hard and hurted after using that us pro too low on my shaft. I went to the hospital and they diagnosed I had a tumor in my testicle. I had surgery and It got cut out and now I only have one testicle. The doctor sad heat can trigger growth of tumor or even cause them if you already have some kind of bad cells down there.

That’s awful to hear, it does seem unlikely that US was the sole cause of the tumor, but I have similar concerns.

After using the US device a few times, I started experiencing pain in the mornings after eating, in the lower intestine. I’ve had no such issue before, so I stopped using US, as it seemed a probable cause. This daily pain lasted for weeks and I’ve not yet started trying US again. I asked many times for more exact direction on exactly where the device should be pointed and how the penis should be held (including posting a video of myself using it for the first time, as that should help to give clear instruction), and so far nothing helpful. I still don’t see how it’s exactly safe to use US at the base of the penis, because that area is inherently going to mean pointing the US device towards either your balls or your intestines. In this thread recently people have talked about going on your back with a towel on the stomach and pulling the penis up that way (with some kind of conductor between the towel and penis), and that does sound maybe safer, but still when you get to the very base of the shaft, it seems there’s still the same problem (or should we not be going to the very base of the shaft?). Also, exactly what is the most effective and “easily accessible” conductor to use then, above the towel?

Another thing, after using US the first couple times, there were more “alert” erections at night, but since then erectile quality has decreased massively. No morning wood at all and less sustained erections than ever. I’ve wondered if maybe this simply coincided with doing too rigorous of a stretching exercise, since I also stopped doing any PE along with stopping US, but not a good thing either way. I want to get back into it soon, but still looking for the most safe protocol, there still has yet to be any visual guide or at least very clear instructions, like exact measurements/angles of exactly where to put the US device for this to all be safe. I’ll probably have a visit to the doctor before resuming too, although I wonder how much a general doctor will even know.

Originally Posted by Escando
That’s awful to hear, it does seem unlikely that US was the sole cause of the tumor, but I have similar concerns.

After using the US device a few times, I started experiencing pain in the mornings after eating, in the lower intestine. I’ve had no such issue before, so I stopped using US, as it seemed a probable cause. This daily pain lasted for weeks and I’ve not yet started trying US again. I asked many times for more exact direction on exactly where the device should be pointed and how the penis should be held (including posting a video of myself using it for the first time, as that should help to give clear instruction), and so far nothing helpful. I still don’t see how it’s exactly safe to use US at the base of the penis, because that area is inherently going to mean pointing the US device towards either your balls or your intestines. In this thread recently people have talked about going on your back with a towel on the stomach and pulling the penis up that way (with some kind of conductor between the towel and penis), and that does sound maybe safer, but still when you get to the very base of the shaft, it seems there’s still the same problem (or should we not be going to the very base of the shaft?). Also, exactly what is the most effective and “easily accessible” conductor to use then, above the towel?

Another thing, after using US the first couple times, there were more “alert” erections at night, but since then erectile quality has decreased massively. No morning wood at all and less sustained erections than ever. I’ve wondered if maybe this simply coincided with doing too rigorous of a stretching exercise, since I also stopped doing any PE along with stopping US, but not a good thing either way. I want to get back into it soon, but still looking for the most safe protocol, there still has yet to be any visual guide or at least very clear instructions, like exact measurements/angles of exactly where to put the US device for this to all be safe. I’ll probably have a visit to the doctor before resuming too, although I wonder how much a general doctor will even know.

Actually with only one treatment, it’s virtually certain that US was not a contributor at all to the tumor. It was effectively a locator of an already existing tumor. The same happen for joint injuries. If I ultrasound my healthy knee, I feel almost nothing. If I switch to my knee with a minor torn ligament, there is an intense ache. US is quite good at creating a pain response in tissue that is already inflamed. This is not to say that it is harmless in large intense doses to internal organs.

The general advice is, do not use the US in a direction pointed toward internal organs or testes. It’s really as simple as that.

Hello Guys.
I am a long time hanger getting into US.
I purchased a Ibramed S-33 Sonopulse, which does both 1Mhz and 3Mhz. It has transducer with a big and small end.
Anyways, the video I watched on it, they recommend a 0.8 per cm2 power level. I read here that it should be between 1.8 and 2.5cm2, which is much higher.

I also purchase a temp probe I can place on the opposite side in between penis and thigh.

I plan to use the 3mhz side. I guess I am a little scared of the US machine I have and would like to start on the lower settings, or perhaps can I do a test run on a similar size part such as my wrist or arm first for 10-20min?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by kushextender
Hello Guys.
I am a long time hanger getting into US.
I purchased a Ibramed S-33 Sonopulse, which does both 1Mhz and 3Mhz. It has transducer with a big and small end.
Anyways, the video I watched on it, they recommend a 0.8 per cm2 power level. I read here that it should be between 1.8 and 2.5cm2, which is much higher.

I also purchase a temp probe I can place on the opposite side in between penis and thigh.

I plan to use the 3mhz side. I guess I am a little scared of the US machine I have and would like to start on the lower settings, or perhaps can I do a test run on a similar size part such as my wrist or arm first for 10-20min?

Thanks.

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Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

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Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I would choose medical/ sport tapes having fabric mesh structure.
Unlike gorilla, the ultrasound gets through it when wet with the gel.

I suspect gorilla giving fairly optimistic readings as it behaves reflector like.

I have been thinking and questioning this as well.

When I used very little Gorilla tape to hold the temp probes, I felt no heat pain. I hit really good temperature levels.

The probes would come off during the session so I started to use a lot more tape and when I did I felt a heat pain where the tape was, especially my upper shaft.

I suspected the waves were reflecting off the tape and focusing too much heat on my skin.

With the extra tape it seemed like I hit decent temps quickly but did not get to 41+ and many times hovered at or just below 40.

Been very busy and have not had time for the protocol. I have some ideas on how I can shift my schedule around a bit so I can get my PE in.


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Originally Posted by Cobra97
Hey Kyrpa,

I got some bad news. You remember how I told you that my left testicle got hard and hurted after using that us pro too low on my shaft. I went to the hospital and they diagnosed I had a tumor in my testicle. I had surgery and It got cut out and now I only have one testicle. The doctor sad heat can trigger growth of tumor or even cause them if you already have some kind of bad cells down there. I don’t cry, it is how it is now.

Really sorry to hear this.

Seems like you have accepted it.


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Some help needed. Where do you guys buy medical gelatin to be used as US phantom with extender?

Originally Posted by Trapezius
Some help needed. Where do you guys buy medical gelatin to be used as US phantom with extender?

Why do you want a gelatin phantom? Go to the Smooth On website and purchase the Dragon Skin 10 NV small kit.

Originally Posted by Tutt
Why do you want a gelatin phantom? Go to the Smooth On website and purchase the Dragon Skin 10 NV small kit.

I forgot that product. Thank you.

Going to get a hands free ultrasound unit with 4 transducers in a cyclical manner, and use dragon skin to mold another half clamshell shape of it with molded in thermocouple probes so that each one aligns with a transducer on the opposite ventral side of the shaft. This should be able to document and log everything accurately.

Originally Posted by kushextender
Going to get a hands free ultrasound unit with 4 transducers in a cyclical manner, and use dragon skin to mold another half clamshell shape of it with molded in thermocouple probes so that each one aligns with a transducer on the opposite ventral side of the shaft. This should be able to document and log everything accurately.

If haven’t read through this and other threads, interference can happen of the transducers are too close and of they are on opposing sides they can cancel out the signals


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by kushextender
Going to get a hands free ultrasound unit with 4 transducers in a cyclical manner, and use dragon skin to mold another half clamshell shape of it with molded in thermocouple probes so that each one aligns with a transducer on the opposite ventral side of the shaft. This should be able to document and log everything accurately.

This is something you can use but it is expensive and then you also have to buy the main unit. Gonna cost about $3,000

https://www.lgmedsupply.com/auhafrapuwiw.html

I learned about it from Tut.


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by Tutt
Why do you want a gelatin phantom? Go to the Smooth On website and purchase the Dragon Skin 10 NV small kit.

Seems like Rocco25 used Dragon Skin 20.

US Phantom made of silicone

Is there a consensus update on which works best as a phantom?


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by Stixman
Seems like Rocco25 used Dragon Skin 20.

US Phantom made of silicone

Is there a consensus update on which works best as a phantom?

The acoustic properties of 20 and 10NV are very similar. 20 is stiffer and 10NV is more flexible. It depends on what you want.

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