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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by SlothD

What do you guys use to protect the balls?

Nothing in my case. Just not ever pointing the transducer toward the sacks. This includes not from the top of the shaft testicles hanging directly below.

The soundwaves propagate straightforwardly not radiating around.

But there can be reflections inside the shaft bouncing from the pubic bone or from the skin-to-air boundary.

These can be minimized and directed more safely into the distal shaft by applying the ultrasound always at an angle leaning outwards from the body.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Nice, thank you!

Originally Posted by SlothD
What do you guys use to protect the balls?

Been wanting to ask this for ages. One mistake and there goes your fertility

Any thoughts on this routine:
10min warmup at 1kg (2.2lbs)
15min with heat-pad at 1.5kg (3.3lbs)
30min with heat-pad at 2kg (4.4lbs)
10min with ultrasound at 2kg (4.4lbs)
15min cooldown at 2.5kg (5.5lbs)

Any benefit of super low weight hanging afterwards for another hour, just to keep it stretched?

Also, any benefit of doing the routine twice per day, 5 days per week, and then rest over weekends?

Originally Posted by SlothD
Any thoughts on this routine:
10min warmup at 1kg (2.2lbs)
15min with heat-pad at 1.5kg (3.3lbs)
30min with heat-pad at 2kg (4.4lbs)
10min with ultrasound at 2kg (4.4lbs)
15min cooldown at 2.5kg (5.5lbs)

Any benefit of super low weight hanging afterwards for another hour, just to keep it stretched?

Also, any benefit of doing the routine twice per day, 5 days per week, and then rest over weekends?

Give it a try for a month and then let us know of the benefits.

Originally Posted by SlothD
Any thoughts on this routine:
10min warmup at 1kg (2.2lbs)
15min with heat-pad at 1.5kg (3.3lbs)
30min with heat-pad at 2kg (4.4lbs)
10min with ultrasound at 2kg (4.4lbs)
15min cooldown at 2.5kg (5.5lbs)

Any benefit of super low weight hanging afterwards for another hour, just to keep it stretched?

Also, any benefit of doing the routine twice per day, 5 days per week, and then rest over weekends?

I wouldn´t use therapeutic tools such as ultrasound on any body part twice a day for five days a row. Not in any circumstance. You may not understand how powerful a tool it actually is.
I wouldn´t do five days a row even with a single exercise-a-day routine.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Zeboss
Been wanting to ask this for ages. One mistake and there goes your fertility

Not so fast cowboy.

Unless you are aiming to put the testicles into a cup of water and boil them for 15 minutes straight. On daily basis.

Joking aside. Surely there can be some consequences, but not as dramatic as you were suggesting.

Keeping the testicles intact.

Link to the study
Ultrasound as a contraceptive.pdf


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I wouldn´t use therapeutic tools such as ultrasound on any body part twice a day for five days a row. Not in any circumstance. You may not understand how powerful a tool it actually is.
I wouldn´t do five days a row even with a single exercise-a-day routine.


Yeah I wasn’t meaning to use US twice per day, only heat-pad the 2nd time, but more due to the nature of multi-tasking than actual danger from US, so thanks for that info, will keep the dangers of US over-usage in mind.

I was thinking the main one that I posted in the morning, while I’m sitting at my desk. And then another standing one in the evening, just with heat-pad.

Or should I mix it up even more if I do 2 sessions on some days?

Originally Posted by SlothD
Yeah I wasn’t meaning to use US twice per day, only heat-pad the 2nd time, but more due to the nature of multi-tasking than actual danger from US, so thanks for that info, will keep the dangers of US over-usage in mind.

I was thinking the main one that I posted in the morning, while I’m sitting at my desk. And then another standing one in the evening, just with heat-pad.

Or should I mix it up even more if I do 2 sessions on some days?

Well, it is not all about any danger I am concerned.
The thing is there is a change of gaining that much too rapidly the tissue can’t cope with it.
Here was already a guy taking the road already. Using ultrasound twice day, several days a row.
Gaining tremendous amount of BPFSL in just days or couple of weeks.
He was Actually warned about it but he chose to do it and ended up with serious overuse syndrome soon after.
There is a limits of what can be expected as a gains not exceeding the tissues capability to heal.
With 1 - 2 mm per week we are on the safe side.

There is not lot of data available but taking an example of deep fascia elongation as side product of limb lengthening procedure. At strain rate of 1 mm a day they find collagen type expression and other positive positive markers. With increasing the strain rate to 2mm a day there are already increased markers of collagen type 3 expression and a lot of markers related with inflammatory responses. Same procedure affecting nerves as well going beyond 1mm strain rate per day.

In physical therapy you rarely find a therapy plan using ultrasound day to day for weeks in.
Everyone should start at the other end with any therapeutic heat Application in PE
If once a week works and you gain 1 to 2mm a week then stick with it.
I personally found out three days a row bringing the gains. The initial routine was 3 ON 2 OFF
Now I prefer to do 3 On 4 OFF. It should be much better in a long term.

The use of ultrasound can upregulate for example TGF-β expression to level it turns against.
It can be good thing when controlled but overly expressed it may produce unwanted collagen 3 production and inflammation responses.
Used properly the Ultrasound can turn down inflammation. So you see more is not the way.

As far as for your thinking of twice a day heating, I would skip the number two heating with any device.
Instead doing it cold with very low load could be better in a respect to tissue healing.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 06-05-2023 at .

Good afternoon. I am interested in your opinion on erections. Do you do any work on it? This is an acute issue for me. What effective methods for improving erections do you know? I only know that you have been doing ic muscle stretches.


Sorry for my English

I’ve known about this thread for a while but was a little scared about the damage of ultrasound, so I stuck with pretty basic manual stretching. I got some decent gains, but now I’m interested in diving into this. Is there anyone here who has some experience doing PE with ultrasound who could suggest an ultrasound product to purchase and a routine to follow?

Quick question, could you just manually stretch while using ultrasound? For those of us that don’t hang or have devices, it seems like a straight down manual stretch while applying ultrasound would be similar.

Originally Posted by homers
Quick question, could you just manually stretch while using ultrasound? For those of us that don’t hang or have devices, it seems like a straight down manual stretch while applying ultrasound would be similar.


With a straight down stretch, you will have your testicles on the line with the ultrasound more than in any other solution. It will be hard to apply the ultrasound without accidentally or indirectly affecting the tests with the wavefront.
Hangers using ultrasound are using pulleys for straightforward stretch.

Originally Posted by homers
Quick question, could you just manually stretch while using ultrasound? For those of us that don’t hang or have devices, it seems like a straight down manual stretch while applying ultrasound would be similar.

Surely, if you can provide the grip somehow. It will be slippery and messy with the amount of conductive gel needed. Not possible without using some sort of grippy gloves or some sort of grip device.
I have tried and jelqing type exercise as well, with the latter decent temperature maintained.

The main concern with both types of manual exercise with therapeutic heat is that while the tissue cools down it should be left in an extended state or keep manually stretching until it has cooled down.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 06-14-2023 at .

Originally Posted by Holdion

Good afternoon. I am interested in your opinion on erections. Do you do any work on it? This is an acute issue for me. What effective methods for improving erections do you know? I only know that you have been doing ic muscle stretches.

Maybe this is not the best place to open a discussion about it (the thread is long already, every side steps making it even longer) Maybe you should open a thread about it if you don´t find the info or opinions you are after.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
With a straight down stretch, you will have your testicles on the line with the ultrasound more than in any other solution. It will be hard to apply the ultrasound without accidentally or indirectly affecting the tests with the wavefront.
Hangers using ultrasound are using pulleys for straightforward stretch.

Surely, if you can provide the grip somehow. It will be slippery and messy with the amount of conductive gel needed. Not possible without using some sort of grippy gloves or some sort of grip device.
I have tried and jelqing type exercise as well, with the latter decent temperature maintained.

The main concern with both types of manual exercise with therapeutic heat is that while the tissue cools down it should be left in an extended state or keep manually stretching until it has cooled down.

Appreciate you Kyrpa. To be honest, I didn’t expect you to respond. I plan on going back and reading through all of your threads because I have the time. I’ve got a couple months until I have my own place, so I want to have my optimal program outlined by then. If you got any thoughts on how to prepare or how to best absorb the info, let me know

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