Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

OK so I’ve now read the whole thread. Very interesting to hear that the cylinder takes up most of the red light at both wavelengths, I’d been wondering about that.

My routine at the moment is pumping a few times a week followed by ADS, along with some Angion work at times. I’m now planning to add vac hanging using my LG hanger and was going to use traditional heat with that but now thinking I’ll use red light instead. I actually have two target red lights already that I could use. They have both wavelengths (660 and 850nm) that can operate together or independently, and at 10cm distance it has 135 mW/cm² from both wavelengths (see independent data as pdf via link below), so presumably a bit closer than that and it would be around the right level of irradiation you recommend. So while they are not pads I can wrap, but they are giving the right wavelength and have been tested by a third party laboratory, so I’m fairly confident of the quality. I’m wondering then even with the scatter effect you mentioned, I’d imagine these would still be pretty effective? Maybe even with one target light either side of the shaft at something like 5cm distance while hanging. Link is below:

https://redligh trising.co.uk/p … rget-light-2-0/

Would be good to know your thoughts. Thanks.

The cylinder is mostly transparent to IR at 660 and 850nm; between 90 and 95% of the IR light gets through depending on the specific type of plastic.

I trawled a bunch of tube sites and ads to find out what plastics they were using, then manufacturers’ sites to look at the specs. IR transmissivity is always listed.

Hi Andy
Thank you for the data: they agree with a simple research I performed a couple months ago, comparing materials, which led me to believe absorption from the cylinder would have been negligible.
Unfortunately I found out there are very different cylinders out there. I had a very old one I briefly used (had to drop it because the manual pump didn’t work anymore), and its temperature never got particularly high, proving that most radiation got through.
Now I bought another pump, one of those with the pump directly on top of the cylinder. It’s certainly easier to operate, but 1) the cylinder is not very long (it’s 20cm and I had it filled almost completely already), and worst than that, 2) it gets really hot.
It’s not a major problem though - it only takes a little more time, to use the NIR pad wrapped around the penis and only then, using the pump.

I wonder how much of my diminished gains are due to this reduced radiation. Now I’m on a hiatus for work issues (I’m traveling), taking advantage of this to get a short decon period. When I start again I think I’ll try going back to extending more, like I used to.

I didn’t know this lamp. It certainly seems to have very powerful led - with only a bunch of them it has a remarkable emitting power.
There are a couple points though:
- so powerful leds, so close to each other. I think this lamp could get hot by itself, and temperature is a major enemy of leds life and capability to retain their emitting power. Try using it for short period of time, avoiding it getting hot.
- there’s a significant difference among declared values and measured ones. That said, the emission power is so high that - considering how close you should use it, to avoid excessive diffusion - you should have no problems.

As I said, I still believe the wrapping of a pad on a bigger surface makes it so much more effective, but in the meantime you can experiment with these lamps you already have.

Red light (660nm) is probably ok, because it doesn’t get too deep. It stops around the outer skin layer, so it doesn’t interfere with the tissues where sperm is created.

NIR would be bad for a number of reasons: the most important ones are

1) you don’t want to heat up your testicles. They are in that position of the body on purpose to keep them reasonably colder then the rest of your body. Heating them up could result on the long term in sterility.

2) a common major rule of biomedical engineering is, always minimizes interference in tissues where new cells are created, especially in form of radiation. Of course new cells are created constantly everywhere, but there are tissues where this happens so much more - the bone marrow, the testicles. Even if NIR is much less dangerous than X-rays and gamma, irradiating new born cells is rarely a good idea. You should minimize every risk of genomic mutation, especially where the genome of newborn cells is particularly important.

Thanks for the reply, actually these lamps have an internal fan to avoid the LEDs getting too hot. I still might get a pad as it will be a lot easier to manage than two lamps at precise positions…

OK thanks, interesting stuff. When I did use it on the testicles before, I didn’t notice much heating effect, maybe a small amount. But if it’s true about bone marrow etc then this would apply to any bone right, so most of the body for NIR? I guess it’s just a bit of an unknown then, but precautionary principle might be the best option…

A few days later I came back with a new Penis Master and NIR pads, would anyone like to share their own NIR usage and experience?

Let me first talk about my own use process.

At the beginning, I used the metal bracket accessories of Peinis Master, but I found it more troublesome to use. I fixed the penis on PenisMaster and then wrapped the NIR pad around the bracket, and set the NIR pad to 850nm, fourth gear (F4), at 20- After 25 minutes, I can feel the air wrapped in the cushion heat up obviously, but I don’t feel a particularly obvious temperature change when I hold the penis with my hand. I think the NIR is too far away from the penis due to the blocking of the PM metal rod, and the rays diffuse. Didn’t really get into the penis.

So I expect to change the PM device to a leg strap tomorrow, wrap the penis tightly with the NIR pad for 30 minutes, and finally take off the pad and keep it in a stretched state for 1-2 hours. This is my initial plan.

Maybe some friends are willing to share the actual usage or give some suggestions? I will be very grateful (I am from China so I guess there will be some wording or grammatical deviations when communicating with you. If there is any difficulty in understanding, I can explain further. And I found that the unique way of enlargement in China is in Thunder No one mentioned it on the Place forum, so I really want to get the qualification to post as soon as possible to share with you. There is a saying in China: Everyone is for one, and I am for everyone, you understand)

You can follow my progress if you want.

It is not neat to share your or mine progress in this topic of Solvay. I suggest you also create a thread for yourself in the "Progress Reports" group. Just like I did.

Good luck with your routine. I’m curious to see what results you get.

Delaspo is going to stretch with NIR

Thank you very much bro, I have been only reading other people’s postings and sharing in the TP forum, so I don’t understand some rules, thank you for reminding me, I will pay attention to your personal progress report, good luck

Hey bro,I am chinese too,can I send message for you?

In the meantime, after a short hiatus I started again using the pad while extending. I stopped using the pump, I didn’t like the direction it was pushing me to.
Unfortunately a change in my work shifts left me with a lot less time to wear the extender, now when I’m very lucky I can wear it at most 2 or 3 hours a day, and not every day; all in all I’d say I can only score less than 10 hours a week, much less than I did before.

I’ve been trying a different NIR routine, with more time (now usually 1hr) using only the 850nm wavelength. The skin doesn’t get as hot as it did before, but the prolonged use of 850nm largely increased the inner, deeper temperature in a very noticeable way.
I have to admit I’ve been considering a couple times again how to measure inner temperature.

I think I already mentioned a different outcome I noticed: while in BPEL the growth has been substantially lower than it used to be, my flaccid lenght and girth increased quite a lot. A few days ago my wife said it’s kind of ridicolous how different my penis is now when not erect, against the way it was months ago: now it’s around 12cm FL at all time, making me feel quite a shower.

I hope other users will start reporting results, right now based only on my experience is very difficult to understand the effects of changes in the routine.

Congrats on your gains! What were your exact pre and post measurements in terms of BPFSL and BPEL? I could not find it reading the thread last time.
I started with the pad yesterday, following my proven 2 days training and 2 days decon schedule.
In 30 days I feel comfortable to give perspective.

All the best and thanks for your contributions.

Can you expand a bit on why you didn’t like the direction pumping was taking you?

That’s what I’m most interested in.

From my perspective, pumping is the only technique that is medically approved for penile health and erection quality (promotes angiogenesis), and from a theoretical perspective, since it applies a force in every direction, it targets both (perpendicular to each other) layers of tunica simultaneously.

Here’s a recap of my measurements:

Early November:
BPEL: 12.9cm
BPFSL: 13.1cm
EG: 13.2cm

Now:
BPEL: 17.3cm
BPFSL: 18.9cm
EG: 14.6cm