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5.5Squared - Hanging with FIRe

Look at log snapshot #2. There’s an increase of 6oz in there.

Thanks 5.5Squared, I appreciate you more than you know! I have done a LOT (did I say a lot?? Lol) of reading lately here and apparently I gone off one of the many bunny trails that can happen. I don’t remember catching the above quote and the chart of what you mentioned it was already covered. Eyes glazed over probably. Thanks for reigning it in and pointing me in the right direction. If it seems I’ve been a little scatterbrained lately, probably because I haven’t gotten that great of sleep as of late. Which of course is extremely important in PE. Gotta tighten up and get on a schedule.

Thanks again bro!

-EightInchEnvy

thats good news, good to know

I think that edging need to be tested on and off. It seems that your anecdotal experience concur with the 5.5’s one.
The BPEL growth slowed when he dropped the edging on decons if I recall correctly.
I plan to test it on my decon breaks on and off alternatively during the first 4 decons as soon as my TM vac hanger arrive (it takes forever).

Scienceguy - “I usually hang for 105 minutes straight but I am going to reduce this to 90 minutes when I start my next cycle. I hang 5 days a week and take the weekend off. I do plenty of edging too, not sure it helps.”

Pipomytho - “I think that edging need to be tested on and off. It seems that your anecdotal experience concur with the 5.5’s one.
The BPEL growth slowed when he dropped the edging on decons if I recall correctly.
I plan to test it on my decon breaks on and off alternatively during the first 4 decons as soon as my TM vac hanger arrive (it takes forever).”

-EightInchEnvy

What FIR pad you guys suggest nowadays?

What do you guys reccomend for my schedule? Im now in my 3th week of hanging (very low 0.5kg) and Im building up too 2.5kg. But Ive read a lot about decon breaks.

1) what is the ideal decon break schedule 6 weeks on 4 weeks off?

2) do I start a decon break now even when Im only hanging with 0.5kg or do I start with decon breaks untill I reach 2.5kg or something like my suggested weight?

I only need another 1.5cm and then my PE journey is coming to an end I think

This routine is based on measuring the strain of your BPSFL at each workout, and the cumulative strain from your the first measurement of the current cycle. Here is a good excerpt from longerstretch’s post (which is linked at the very beginning of this thread).

“We can also look at the cumulative effect in our current cycle between decons. Me and others have noted gains slow between 14 and 60 days. If we are gaining we can account for a usual cumulative effect of 5-8% strain if calculated from day 1 to the last day of current gain cycle. When you approach these numbers in any cycle you’ll know to start wrapping it up and looking to start your decon. Also it appears that outside newbie gains, gains can only happen so fast. Me and others have noticed this is approximately 0.1 cm per 5 to 14 days.”

So I think the answer is pretty much if you are seeing good strain, keep going. If you strain is starting to peak, then stop.

In regards to adding weight, this was 5.5’s recommendation:

“The protocol I’d recommend is from cycle 2. Start with 12-18 oz and go from there. Add weight every 2-3 weeks. This isn’t about hanging 40lbs from your penis. It’s about hanging just enough weight to take advantage of the vicious uncoupling under heat.”

So now the obvious question is, how do you know when to add more weight vs take a decon break? I think that’s just gotta be trial and error. If you can add 8oz and have a session with good strain, then keep hanging. If you don’t get good strain from that weight, you could try a little more or end the cycle and begin your decom break. Or even tweak the routine (more time under heat for example). I haven’t seen a very rigid protocol as to adding weight and when to take decon breaks. Rather, it’s tweaking the routine and taking measurements along the way so you know what is working.

I have the 3x6 thermdeic, and the totalman. I tested with a probe down the urethra and the totalman was better. The thermedics seem to be hit or miss. Another poster (I think wantmore12) has two of the 3x6 and two of the 4x7. He said one of the 3x6 is hotter than the other, so might be a quality control issue at thermedic. Also, he said both 4x7 were hotter than the 3x6. I ordered a 4x7, but haven’t received it yet.

Not sure about the low weight, that weight didn’t do anything for me. It has worked for 5.5. Are you getting good strain? Have you made any BPFSL gains?

With the decon you have to see what works. Trying 3 or 4 weeks seems reasonable. Though keep in mind when you start back of things go slow you might need a long break.

I’m got the Totalman a few days ago. Definitely slot hotter than my smaller Thermedic pad. Almost too hot. I started on red, had to drop down to blue and even had to remove it for a bit. I’ll keep it on blue except for the last 10-15 min it so.

So the question: Do I build up to a good amount of weight and when I got a strain between 2-4% I do a decon break for a few weeks and then start again?

For example:

Im now in my 3th week with 0.5kg. I build up the time from 20 mins to 60 mins. From week 1 20 mins to now 3th week 60 mins.

Next week im doing 0.75kg and 3 weeks later 1kg.

Lets say with 0.75kg I got no strain either and then with 1kg I see a strain of 2%. Do I continue from there or is it better to do a decon break because I hanged for a few weeks (without strain)

And when I continue hanging after 4 weeks or something (decon break) I can start from 1kg because I know 1kg is giving me a good strain?

Thanks for helping

I wouldn’t measure with the chamber on.

You should be measuring strain from two perspectives. One from the first measurement of the cycle against your post workout measurement (or is it the pre workout measurement? Someone correct me here pls, I’m on mobile at the moment). This is the cumulative strain of the cycle. This is what longerstretch is talking about when he says they have found that gains stop around 5-8% cumulative strain.

The other strain measurement is pre and post workout. This one tells you if the workout was effective, and you’re shooting for 2%+. 5.5 did say that he gained when be had workouts between 1% and 2%, but more is better.

So in your example, if you had a strain of 2%, I’d say that’s a good workout. Repeat it the next day and measure again. If you’re still doing 2% after a week, up the weight and see what happens. Does strain go up? If it goes up, roll with that for a week or two. If it went down, maybe drop the weight back down and see what happens.

You take a decon when your session’s strain is stalling when you’re somewhere between 7 and 8 % cumulative growth for the given cycle. Usually between 30 to 40 days. So @StrangerComeKno is right.

Regarding upping the weight, you don’t need to rush. As your strain remain between 1.5 to 2.5% continue to hang with this weight.

So If I understand correctly this should be my plan:

I measure BPFSL every weight level and when I see a strain level between 2-4%, which is ideal, I know that weight level is good for me.

But like I said I just started hanging so I cant add 1kg every day until I get a strain so I need to add weight every 2 weeks until I hit a weight which is giving me strain between 2-4%. Im just building up my weight level with 0.25kg every 2 weeks.

When I hit around 5-8% of strain level I should start a decon break for a few weeks. So let’s say I start with my current BPFSL of 15cm and after 60 days its 16.3cm.

16.3/15 = strain level of 8.6%

So know I know I need a decon break.

Is this right or am I still missing something important?