Hanging with FIRe

Hi, everyone. I recently re-engaged with PE and really enjoyed the methodology 5.5Squared outlined in this thread, so I started a log you can follow here: Rumble’s Journey.

This… is why it’s nice to have an engineer as a buddy when a guy didn’t do so well in school:

smokeXnawa - Hanging with FIRe

5.5Squared - Hanging with FIRe

-EightInchEnvy

Ordered my Thermedic today just in case w/ the shielding! They are in stock if anyone was wondering. lol

Thermedic Heat Pad
https://www.ama … /dp/B016ZKBY8A/

Heat Shielding
https://www.ama … /dp/B00029KC2A/

Also take a peek at the picture of why I laughed a little…

-EightInchEnvy

Hello 5.5squared. I’ve spent the last few days reading yours, Krypta’s, and Longerstretch’s posts and am convinced this incremental loading + heating to 102-109F the best way to gain length that I’ve come across. I have a MS in materials science engineering so this was all right up my alley. Thank you all so much for your contributions and for providing a scientific framework that we can base PE off of.

I’ve been practicing PE with some success for about 3 months. Mostly using the info on r/gettingbigger. I started with extending then switched to hanging. I used heat sometimes and did not really use incremental weight loading. After reading through all you guys’ info I will now be vacuum hanging with incremental loading and applying heat with my thermedic FIR pad once I reach .1MPa (right about 4 lbs for me) and continuing to increment the weight until I hit 7lbs (.17MPa). I may even run a quick experiment to get my own stress strain curve and be more exact with where exactly my toe and heel are for my specific tissue.

One thing I haven’t been able to discover through the discussions I’ve read through on these forums is why you’re increasing the weight during the cooldown period. Wouldn’t this just put you somewhere along the elastic region of the stress strain curve once the penis is cooled back down? And aren’t we trying to avoid moving too far into this region to avoid tissue strengthening? I get the theory that we’re trying to “freeze” the stretched out polymer fibers of the tunica in their new elongated state but do you have info on the studies this method is based on?

I’m sure this has been discussed somewhere but I can’t seem to find the discussion with a search—I’d be super grateful if you could reiterate why the weight is increased during the cooldown.

Thanks!

The closest to a study I can get with my current google-fu is: Tutt - Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Tutt stopped in last Oct for a few weeks and was a goldmine of information. I’m pretty sure it was Tutt who advised me to decrease my cool down from 30 —> 10 mins. Of course I’m at 15 mins now :)

Tutt’s post makes sense I think:

When the heat is removed, the tissue will want to contract. Heat is what gives us that extra strain after all. So the extra weight in the cool down step is to keep this strain in place. Good question, Meat_Slinger.

What a marvelous read here, thanks a lot for your input guys!

I have a slight concern regarding heating pad though, and it’s immerged from initial refusal of getting TherMedic pad (delivery troubles from amazon to my country, and necessity to get at least 2 just in case of poor QA on their side), and then turned into mistrust in cheap far infrared pads after I did small research.

Let me be clear: I’m just interested in finding the best possible source (sadly no US) of heat for tissues, and it was a long time since my last physics classes, so take it with a grain of salt.

So I started with trying to find far infrared pad on AliExpress. It’s was quite strange to see 2-4$ pads there, considering TherMedic being a Taiwan company and also using carbon fiber as a heating element. However I did use something like this https://aliexpr ess.ru/item/100 … .47174aa6yuBAJI when I just started PE last summer, and did see a major difference in elasticity while using it with extender. But the one I got was with fixed temperature, and wasn’t even listed as infrared, while being almost exactly the same.

Which made me research a bit more. Far infrared - Wikipedia
Quote: "Some heating pads are sold as providing "far infrared" therapy which purports to provide "deeper" penetration. Since the infrared radiation of an object is determined by its temperature, all heating pads provide the same infrared radiation if they are at the same temperature. Higher temperatures will provide greater infrared radiation but the user must be careful to avoid burns."

Next: What is the difference between thermal and infrared imaging? - Physics Stack Exchange
Quote: "The thermal radiation and the infrared radiation are the same thing if the sources of the radiation have temperatures comparable to the room temperature."

After that I tried to find if there are any papers on using far infrared heating pads. Found one, and the pad used there was actually FDA-registered medical device with data on it’s deep heating effect. But guess what - it costs 139$-259$. Not even close to 37$ right? And it’s made of carbon fiber too! Here is a promo of that pad, and name of paper at the bottom of the first page: https://www.the rmotex.com/wp-c … -Technology.pdf

So I returned to TherMedic site, noticed "patented" Cabric® technology, looked up that patent and found none. Only trademark in EU. Also I’m pretty much convinced that TotalMan is just the same, maybe just with more heat output.

Does it mean that all of these pads provide similar effect? And you can literally grab pads that being used for cloth heating? Or even make custom pad (or tube, for comfort) from carbon stripes that used for heated floor? Obviously there are differences between manufacturers, and there are plenty of carbon fabric types according to some papers I found.

Problem is without equipment you won’t be able to make sure that you actually use far infrared to heat your member. I really hope that I’m wrong and just overthinking, since there is a lot of unclear stuff for me. But for now I really have no idea how to approach to heating.

Anyway, for now I ordered a ton of various pads to experiment with, "far infrared" included. Will see if they actually be similar.

Yeah trusting we are getting to the optimal temperature is a problem. There were tests done on the TherMedic pad which got the urethra to 40.5. C in 20 minutes, if I remember correctly. No data for what happens after that an obviously we have read the issues people have found with the quality of those pads, seems to be a bit hit or miss.

I have two pads and have been trying to do some similar tests but have been getting issues with my test setup. Ideally we would get away from people having to put a probe up their urethra to ensure the correct temperature.

This study is what sold me on the benefits of FIR. Far infrared radiation (FIR): its biological effects and medical applications - PMC

I bought the totalman long before this post and I ever heard the term FIR. I bought it because it’s designed for the penis, fits nicely. I tested it with a thermometer and it got me over 40C, so it gets the job done true FIR or not. I tested one of the thermedics (the 3x6), and was disappointed with the results. I have one of the 4x7 on order. If you come across any other pads that you think are better or equal, please post. The more options we have the better.

Got some temperature results using Totalman and Aroma Season pads posted here

scienceguy - let’s see what happens

Both seem to be similar, AS Pad heated slightly further before leveling off. Both got into the desired temperature range. As with everything there are some limitations to the tests but it’s the best I could do

When you guys are doing the incremental loading how exactly are you loading the weight while you stay stretched out? I have to unstretch first to put weight on my weight hanger.

I use a carabiner attached to the TM hanger. I just slip the next increment of weight on.

I have a big L bracket/hook that I put the weights on. Sometimes I have to take all the weights off to put on a heavier one, when I do that I try to maintain the same tension for the switch over with my hand, the switch over takes 2 or 3 seconds so I don’t think about it too much

I hate when auto correct puts in the wrong word and I don’t notice. That post sould end with

“As with everything there are some limitations to the tests but its the best I could do”

@scienceguy

Dont worry about the limitations. I think you’ve done a great job testing your two heat pads. They seem to work and that’s good. Testing is good but I dont know if anyone should test to the point of pain or uncomfortableness just so we can get a internal temperature.

@Dracula8

I use an empty large plastic nut jar that you often see at the grocery stores (filled with peanuts, cashews, etc) Using the jar’s lid and some wide metal washers for reinforcement I drilled (more like stabbed and poked) a hole through the side of the plastic jar and put an eye bolt through it. Without the lid on the proper way I can easily put weights into the jar. I tied string to the eye bolt that goes through the pulley and then tied to a carabiner that I attach to my vacuum cup.