Buckfever's progress report/bananaman story.

11/4/2018

100% max tension @ 22.5 minutes
followed by
Low tension @ 60 minutes

Travel schedule may be altered a bit, might be able to get back on this a little better.

11/5/2018 TUG BACK

On 11/2 there seemed to be a peak in terms of the tension/duration for the 2 session day and now we have the tug back. This is something that I’ve started to decipher as I’ve gained more experience and is consistent with something that Bib wrote about getting to a point where on subsequent days the weight had to be reduced but he viewed this as part of the process of getting to further accommodation.

I wonder if it’s a matter of accelerating the process too much and whether a more measured approach could avoid it or if it is essential to the process. I’m not sure at this point. I also wonder if it is completely unrelated and whether there is a correlation to robust ejaculation in the case where there is massive EQ. I just don’t have enough data points

In any event what I have noticed is that it is much more effective to back off the tension and favor duration as a means of getting past it. So what I’m doing here is getting a short session at the highest tension and increasing that duration slowly and then immediately coming back with a lower tension that will ensure that the session duration is up there. Slowly increasing that session tension too, day by day.

But I’m not sure maybe it’s better to just go straight to low tension and max out the session duration first and then increase the tension back up. I think this is what is talked about in terms of getting on a method and deciphering the code. I suspect it is also a matter as others have noted, that there is no cookie cutter approach but rather that the approach has to be tailored to your specific tissue response.

What I can say is don’t be discouraged by the tug back, just get the duration back up and tension will creep back up.

100%++ max tension @ 25 minutes
Immediately followed with
34% max tension @ 40 minutes

11/5/2018

Second session

34% max tension @ 25 minutes
Immediately followed by
Low tension @ 60 minutes

Back on the road, very surprised to get get this much time in. 150 minutes total on the day. Doing what we can with a disrupted schedule.

This is where theories diverge.

If you are a typical extender user pushing to the tub back reflex is the worst possible thing. Tug back signifies penis fatigue and often it signifies that no more growth via a creep method will be possible while the penis is defending itself.

If you are a typical hanger then you will lower the weight and push through fatigue. That theory does serve many men well as well.

Yes a more measured approach can avoid tug back with an extender. Tug back is not a necessary part of the process when using an extender but can be worked around.

BUT too much tugback will retard gains and force an injury. A different penis will turtle for months if forced through too much of it. Another penis still will just stop giving a tug back response. This is where the dice start rolling.

That correlation is loose but exists. The health of the Pelvic Control muscle is more pivotal. A strong erection quality for an erection typically gives the PC muscle more movement to work with in order to force semen out in a more spectacular ejaculation. Kegels when not erect and the involuntary spasms of ejaculation are both weaker with low erection level.

Tissue response patterns tend to fall in one of three categories. Neutral, positive and negative. And some combinations of neutral or negative with positive can have good effects. So the code baseline starts simple but even too much positive may be bad. Hence the deciphering.

“So the code baseline starts simple but even too much positive may be bad. “

Ah that’s a very good framework. I’ll need to pay attention to this. I have to a degree, by identifying the need to manage the tension to support the session duration. But there are other factors, such as the rate of tension increase in a session, how quickly we increase the tension over the course of days and also the total volume of work(as a measure of time and tension) especially when there are multiple sessions in a day.

Based on that comment I went back and looked at the log and I’ve consistently run into this issue. It’s too much positive, basically being overzealous, then pulling back the tension for duration, then too much positive, then pulling back the tension for duration, but what has happened is that each pullback of the tension has required less time and then finally the tissues just accommodate without tugback.

And given that it’s the pullback in tension that restores the progress, it would seem a reasonable conjecture that avoiding the tugback altogether would be more effective. But once again, I’m not sure.

I have also noticed that I get the most positives, when with the longer sessions I have to ride the fatigue at the end and experience the feeling of post session fatigue that persists.

So yeah exactly “even too much positive may be bad”

A little more temperance yeah?

You have to look at the actual studies. Extenders were not used with the extreme levels of tension that you use and the tug back reflex was not triggered. Additionally, the usual method behind extenders follows those studies to some degree. Ergo, it is more effective by a seemingly consensus of the majority do not push the extender to a tug back reflex.

As I said before and I will say many times more in my time here to a variety of guys. Do not change what is working. Positive indicators do not mean push harder.

Steady gains come from a moderated and tempered mindset. Not waiting until they start and then taking the race to the finish method. That is no more effective in the long run than people who take the race to the finish method from the very beginning.

It is a marathon not a sprint and the temperance is in your mind. Use it.

11/6/2018

57% max tension @ 40 minutes

Followed by

Low tension @ 60 minutes

And we’ll call that sufficient for the day and see how we go from here.

This is a posting by LittleEngine, I want it in my log.

“While I appreciate your goal of putting in the time, also think about finding a balance with PE that doesn’t include an all or nothing mindset, if possible that is, we are all different.

Example, I have become so accustomed to strapping in and out of the extender that even a 0.25” gain over the course of a year would be acceptable to me. Using the extender is part of my daily routine and if in four years I gain an inch, that would be huge.”

11/7/2018

100% max tension @ 48.5 minutes

followed by

Low tension @ 60 minutes

Again that will be all for the day.

Tomorrow I’ll be back to a regular schedule and will begin the process of figuring out how to unlock the code to avoid the tug back. Fortunately I have kept some very good data.

I do think that I’m close, but at the same time I don’t think it easy, because there is variation in the tissues day to day, it’s nuanced, still I think we can get there.

The other thing and it has been on my mind, is that I want this whole endeavor to be a little more tidy, tucked into my life. Not specifically because of this but as part of a broader picture of wanting my life to consist of a nice tight portfolio of endeavors. So this unlocking the code figures into it and then once deciphered as best we can, I’ll just tuck it in and focus on execution. Figuring a commitment of ~10 hours a week, with protocols to stay below the tug back threshold and taking a long run view of a 2.5-3 year commitment.

11/8/2018

100%++ max tension @ 57 minutes

got to max tension @ 10 minutes

Almost back to 60 minutes with the max tension and the max rate of tension increase. I think we’ll call that sufficient for the day and see how the post session fatigue feels and how things respond tomorrow.

These are knew facets that I’m having to decipher. It’s going to be a process.

Hi, when using extender for long periods of time,

How do you avoid the chaffing on the coronal ridge of the penis? Everytime I start using extender I experienced it.

When I started out I could only go for very short periods of time. Aim lower.

“As a member of the unbounded, I respectfully disagree. No dream, goal or desire is defined by limitations. Only what it is that the person seeks and what they will do to get it.”

I have to say I really like this, it makes me smile. It’s so philosophical, because once you define what you seek, you’ve bound it.

It’s such wonderfully simple thing, this invitation to stay open.

11/9/2018

100%++ max tension @ 60 minutes

got to max tension @ 10 minutes

Riding the fatigue the last 5 minutes was tough, didn’t do a great job with the glans attachment.

That’s all we’ll do today, anecdotally I seem to do better with occasional 2 session days, but it’s early in this process. But I say that because it seems that when I do the first session with high tension for 60 minutes followed by a second session with lower tension, it seems that there is much better accommodation the next day.

Looking at where I went wrong was when I was getting accommodation and then was ramping up the tension too quickly for the second session. That may have been where I went over and triggered the tugback. If this is right either the second session should be low tension or the ramp up should be in smaller increments or maybe there should be a ratio, like the second session tension being a percentage of the first session session.

It’s kind of complicated but it isn’t as if though there are unlimited possibilities, we’ll figure it out.

As long as your world remains infinite possibilities do as well. This is my personal Credo.