Berghuis’ Routine

I’m not giving up for sure, that’s what I mentioned in my message. But you have to understand if you’re mentally tired its hard to stay motivated and making sure you don’t break. I’m feeling depressed for 5 months now and I keep getting stronger so hopefully PE is worth it. I only say it wouldn’t be the worst thing for me to happen that I reach my goal in the first 6 months.

I know that gains are what will keep you motivated. Every penis is different, so there’s no way of telling when your gains will stop. They will at some point come to a hault - in what we are calling a plateu. That is when our penis just have to take a break on its own, but that doesn’t mean that we should stop the work. When a plateu comes, just do your routine differently, add different excersizes or change the routine completely. It is like in the gym, when your muscles comes to a plateu, you hit them with something else. I do not think you should jelq more than 30 minutes in one session. Keep the routine for 3 months, and then alter the routine.You could then - every other day - do two sessions on the same day, with some hours between them. It is clearly working what you are doing, so don’t go overboard. Monitor your erections and erection quality ( EQ), and your morning woods. That is what we call the physical indicators ( PI). Give yourself 2-5 years of PE, and you will get to 6 inches and maybe moore. I wish I knew about this stuff when I was a young man. Theres a lot you can go into when a plateu comes. Extending, ADS ( all-day stretcher), pumping, hanging. Maybe you’ve read about clamping, but that is for very experienced guys only - dangerous business. Good luck, keep us posted.

Thanks for the information. Yeah I’m pretty confident about jelqing and its safety but the other PE methods are not made for me. I hope that I can achieve my goal with jelqing only. If I hit my goal with jelqing only I will continue to jelq for a long time to cement the results but Let’s hope I don’t have to clamp, pump or stretch ever. Its to risky for me. Jelqing is natural the other methods don’t sound natural at all.

I keep a detailed log and chart my PE.
My gains plateaued after about 2-3 months, but the largest change was in the first 6 weeks.

It’s a marathon, not a sprint, growing one’s wang.

I’ve got a tiny beginners problem. I have been stretching and wet jelqing (with spit) for 1.5 month now with the newbie routine taking it really slow. Now I think stretching is the problem (maybe I stretch to hard) but I got little wrinkles on my base shaft but they are red and look like little scars. They don’t hurt but sometimes when I jelq it stings a bit. What should I do? They don’t go away after 1 rest day but I’m afraid If I take 2-3 rest days my gains will slow down. Now my questions are:
1) should I take rest until they completely vanished despite it doesn’t hurt at all or maybe stop stretching for a while?

2) is the stretching the problem? I use a toilet paper for grip and it works really well so maybe I need to slow down on stretching

3) If I take 2-3 or maybe more rest days will this slow down my gains? I’m gaining so well now and I don’t want to quit for a while maybe this will make my gains go away I worked so hard for

Thanks in advance

What you are describing sounds like minor skin abrasions from jelqing dry skin. Try keeping your shaft moisturized with lotion, which you can also jelq with. If the abrasions worsen, cover them with an antibacterial cream.

I could be wrong but it might be a sign the skin’s stretching, rather than the actual penis. With my stretching grip, the skin is totally out of the equation, it wouldn’t matter what was going on with my skin, I could still stretch.

When I was accidentally skin stretching in the beginning I would get more stretch marks on my skin. But when I found a new grip I don’t feel that skin stinging any more. I just feel the penis stretching.

As far as jelqing with spit, does that really create a good enough lubrication? I only tried hand lotion (dries out too fast) and now I use Johnson & Johnson’s baby oil with vitamin E and aloe. The baby oil is a little more runny than the hand lotion but it doesn’t dry up for the entire jelq period and could probably last longer if I jelq longer. Also it was really cheap and at the rate I’m using it, a $10 supply could last over a year, maybe even two. There is no notable friction on the skin. I think with spit you might begin to get friction and even stickiness on the skin.

Thanks for your answer. Yeah spit works fine for me you need to produce a lot of spit that’s not a problem for me. I think I need to keep the penis more wet during the jelqing. I can use some products but they run out and I don’t want my dad to know what I’m doing. With the stretching I really stretch my penis and not my foreskin. I have a hook grab behind the glans and I don’t feel like I’m stretching the foreskin but only the penis. My grip is really good to so no problem at all. Or could I still stretch wrong?

A stupid question but I have to ask. Do you stretch with your for skin pulled back as long as you can?

I got some stretchmarks myself on the base of my penis. I think it was from growing 1 cm in very short time. But I have extremely easy to get stretch marks. I have them om several places from growing to fast when I lift weights when I was 16-20 and gained 50 pounds in weight.

I would really suggest buying some baby oil. I wet jelq as well and use baby oil as my lubricant. It’s good for your skin and also gives enough, I would say great, motion (don’t know what word to use) when you jelq.

I got some problems with jelqing and gains. I don’t know if I’m jelqing in the right erection level. My skill is that I can maintain my erection level very good in any way I want. When I jelq my penis is still a bit squishy in the bottom half and it gets harder and less squishy when I reach at the top half to the glans. My penis is full of blood when I’m done so I think I’m on the right erection level. I want length gains so I don’t want to improve the erection level yet. How do I know its not too soft to jelq?

Second. I started at 5 inch erect length no bone pressed and 14.7 bone pressed. Now I’m at 15.4 bone pressed and 14.3 cm so an increase of 0.7 cm in just2 months. Now the gains have stopped and I don’t see improvement. I never skipped a day (I have rest days of course 2 days on 1 day off) was this just a improvement of erection level? Because I’m 20 years old and my erection level was very good from the beginning. I measured correct 100% because I checked a few times and different days too. Did I gain newbie gains or was it an erection level? Because most guys gain after the 3 month with newbie gains

Thanks in advance you’re the best

It could have been newbie gains, but newbie gains are different for everyone. The substantial gains come with long term effort and commitment.

I wouldn’t worry too terribly much about a hyper-specific erection level at first, so long as you feel that you’re pushing adequate blood to create the fatigue/stimulus you’re on the right track. I don’t think of things so much in terms of jelqs at specific erection levels being more meaningful than others - more so I tend to think of each erection level as its own form of training, not to be neglected long term.

Since a few days I can’t search on this forum anymore because my browser changed its very annoying. I’m sure I’m not the only one with this problem.

I keep getting red spots after a jelqing session. I’m in my 2nd month (newbie routine) and its new that I keep getting red spots which after a session turns into blue/dark spots like bruises. The first was 1 week ago. I changed my grip and it was harder than I usually do then I stopped for a week and they disappeared after the 2nd day. Now 7 days later I continued jelqing like I always did before and Ta-da the dark spots are back. I’m 100% sure my grip was the same as the first month when I had zero problems. PS: The new dark spots almost disappeared after 1 day.

Now my questions are:
1) is this bad and is this affecting my results with jelqing? I mean if I get red/dark spots does that mean my workout was for nothing and I made 0 gains for sure?

2) my next question is how do I know I’m jelqing effectively? I saw this post of someone a few weeks ago:

Several tests that will tell you if your jelqing routine is effective or not are the following:
1) for either the V’s or regulars, leave your first jelq grip at the base of your glans (squeeze firmly) and start your second jelq. You should feel the fingers near your glans start to expand. This is caused by the increased blood flow being created by the second jelqing motion you are starting at your base.
2) touch your glans as you approach it with a jelq. The harder your glans feels to the touch, the more blood you have effectively moved into it.
3) look at your urethra opening (pee hole) after you are finished with your jelqing session. If the area around it is puffed up, this indicates you had an effective session and your glans is still swollen with blood from the routine.
4) Look at the color of your glans before you start your routine and then compare it when you are finished. It should be darker in color, a clear indication that extra blood was forced into it.
5) another good sign of a well done jelq is when the area below your jelqing stroke remains pale looking, while the area above the jelq is darker in color. This indicates you are pushing blood up your shaft, while not letting much escape below it.
6) when you are done your entire shaft should be much redder in color and substantially puffier than normal. This is another indication of good blood flow.
7) know what your mid girth is at different flaccid lengths (since flaccid size varies so often). After your routine measure your length and then the corresponding mid girth measurement. If your normal mid girth size is say 4” when your flaccid length is 4 3/4”, and after your routine your mid girth is more than 4” at that 4 3/4” length, guess what, your whole unit is expanded from your solid girth routine.
8) finish a jelq and keep your grip at the base of your glans. Now kegel once or twice, hold it and get your next grip firmly established at your base (while keeping your other grip firmly established at the base of your glans). Alternate squeezing one of the grips while slightly releasing the other grip. Sort of teeter totter between grips squeezing and releasing. You should feel a lot of blood flowing back and forth between the grips. That is the same blood you are jelqing into your glans, and lets you know you are doing things well.
9) when I finish if I try to squeeze my glans to open my urethra (piss hole), it doesn’t open because my glans is puffed up with blood. This just may be the best and simplest test to see if you have forced a large amount of blood up into your glans.

Thanks in advance.

Hi guys,

I’m from the Netherlands so sorry for my bad english.
I’m currently doing the newbie routine in my first 2.5 months of PE. I’m 20 years old and didn’t have any experience. Now I gained 0.5cm in erect length Bone and NBP. I’m pretty sure the gains are EQ because they came so quickly. Now I’m starting to wondering if my Erection level is too low when jelqing. The gains stopped after 1 week and I read a lot about people who are getting too harroused or cumming when jelqing. When I jelq I’m not harroused or anything because I focus on the jelq. I can get harder but when I get harder I’m afraid I will gain girth and I need length.
My routine is now after 2.5 months:
5 min warmup with hot cloth (somethimes wet)
10 min stretching
Another 5 min warmup depends on the privacy
27-30 min jelqing on low erection level

Most important: I don’t know I’m even jelqing in an erection or just flaccid. I don’t feel hard or anything when jelqing. My glans is harder when I approach the jelq and my grip is good too after 2.5 months I think. I use lube for wet jelqing.

MY QUESTION: should I start over with the newbie routine with 10 mins jelqing and jelq with an erection level thats higher then I use now or should I go on with this ‘erection’ level and wait. I also can continue now but with an higher erection level? I don’t want to waste time because I know it is a marathon not a sprint but jelqing needs a lot of time and it will be a shame if I’m not doing it right. I’m rethinking my life right now and I want to get bigger and I have the motivation to improve every month. If I don’t see jelqing gains the first 6 months I’m desperate to stay with jelqing only and maybe add a routine of an extender for 8 hours a day (I will build up the hours a day of course) because work for sure.

Please help and thanks in advance!

I recommend doing what has worked for you. Are you doing any manual stretches?