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Reflections and Progress: thoughtfulgold

Originally Posted by trynagrow
Hey TG, did you really only have 4.3 girth? If so the increase you made is increadible, and very inspiring to me

Close to 4.4” exactly 9 years ago this month.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
It is the duality of shame and guilt that make it extremely hard to ever mention this to anyone.

You’re missing part of the idea. “Everybody’s hobby is dumb,” isn’t a defensive retort. It’s a thing you remind yourself to keep the right mindset. You’re reminding yourself that hobbies aren’t about practicality, they’re about passion. By embracing the fact that your hobby is silly, because all hobbies are silly, you let go of a lot of that guilt and shame.


Why the Smithsonian? Because you could walk around it for a week and not see the whole thing.

Originally Posted by The Smithsonian
You’re missing part of the idea. “Everybody’s hobby is dumb,” isn’t a defensive retort. It’s a thing you remind yourself to keep the right mindset. You’re reminding yourself that hobbies aren’t about practicality, they’re about passion. By embracing the fact that your hobby is silly, because all hobbies are silly, you let go of a lot of that guilt and shame.

You offer me wisdom. I accept it, oh great museum.

Thank you. Perspective is key here.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by The Smithsonian
You’re missing part of the idea. “Everybody’s hobby is dumb,” isn’t a defensive retort. It’s a thing you remind yourself to keep the right mindset. You’re reminding yourself that hobbies aren’t about practicality, they’re about passion. By embracing the fact that your hobby is silly, because all hobbies are silly, you let go of a lot of that guilt and shame.

Well put. This is a great outlook.


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Respuesta En Español

Hola compañero tg .. sinceramente creo que tú cuestionamiento se basa en 3 pilares fundamentales o preguntas:
1)El pe te avergüenza? Porque?
2)Si la respuesta es no, porque entonces lo ocultas o lo ocultamos y lo hacemos a escondidas?
3) ¿que tiene más valor, un pene natural grande O un pene faloculturista grande?

Mis respuestas en general a estas 3 preguntas serian…
1) Antes de ver tu post sobre hacerlos a escondidas no sentía vergüenza alguna..sino más bien orgullo y tanto mí novia como gente de mí entorno en general lo sabía y se sorprendia, por ejemplo una amiga sin derechos, es decir amiga de verdad, me dijo que estaba maravillada y que ojalá su novio haría lo mismo. Yo por mí parte estaba encantado …no obstante llegó ese momento de ponerme a pensar que no TODA la gente, ni las chicas con las que me acuesto lo saben, entonces, porque lo oculto me pregunte ..lo cual hizo entrar en mí un poco de inseguridad y vergüenza dado la reflexion que me hiciste tener TG
2) En cierto modo, no está bien visto por la sociedad y el mundo no es tal cual lo quisieramos, es como es y el andar diciendo que hacemos p.e creo que es motivo de burlas y estupideces de ese estilo, no porque este mal lo que hagamos, simplemente la gente común y ordinaria no lo ve con buenos ojos y creo que responde a mí ” ¿PORQUE LO OCULTO o hago a ESCONDIDAS? ” Creo que no es tanto por la validación interna, sino por la externa ya que nos cataloga como alguien con poca dotación poca autoestima poca masculinidad etc …
3) sinceramente yo creo que la fábula del diamante y la perla lo explica muy bien, es más, hasta me atrevo a decir que tiene más mérito ser faloculturista y tener 18cm x 6inches partiendo de 13cm x 11 CM ya que uno solo lo recibió tal cual chica fitness va chica dotada, tal vez ambas tengan equivalencias de puntaje de acuerdo a fisico, no obstante la personalidad de la “chica fitness” tendrá mayor valor ya que ella a base de esfuerzo y tener una fuerte personalidad lo consiguio, y seguramente lo sea igual en todos los aspectos de su vida. Por lo tanto en igual de condiciones un pene grande natural vs un pene grande faloculturista si solo se miran los tamaños, ganará aquel que más grande sea, o mejor cumpla su función y despeño sexual.
Así que he ahí mí réflexion compañero “thoughtfulgold” es solo mí pequeño aporte y opinión respecto de lo que habías planteado
Un saludo!


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Medidas: 15.5 bp x 12 eg


Last edited by 9mm : 08-16-2018 at . Reason: Errores ortográficos

Answer In English

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
It was posed to me by one of my new female best friends, M, that I apologize too much.

She supports my PE endeavors in her own way, because of the self-discovery and the effort and mental discipline it has given me. But she doesn’t like big penises, and definitely thinks my penis looks disproportionate, like a toddler’s leg. But this is her subjective opinion. She wants me to be happy and grow and love myself and she loves that I’m doing that and finding that with PE and exercise.

This brings me to the point of this particular post. I have been reflexively apologetic about the fact that I do PE. I know I am ashamed of it. We hide what it is that we do as though it is illegitimate or wrong. Most of us will be mortified if our significant others found out without us telling them.

This is wrong. We have no reason to be ashamed. What it is that we do is noteworthy in laudable. It is no cause for us to be guilty about. Yet one of the main things that I can think of that made me guilty is how I didn’t want anyone to find out because it would make me feel as though having made my penis bigger I wasn’t a legitimate “big guy” because I had to work at it. As though the fact that I made my penis bigger somehow takes away from the value of the size I created. Because social validation if you admit some kind of weakness changes in context intent and so we just hide it and try to play it off instead.

All of this is terrible. There is absolutely no reason that us getting bigger is anything bad. And yet, so many of us when we do breach the topic to our loved ones, end up with our feelings hurt and tip toeing as though walking on glass hoping that they’ll approve. This has to stop. This mindset has to end.

There is no part of self-improvement that requires any apologies and it’s not supposed to by Design. For us to feel guilty or ashamed about self-improvement is actually a step backwards from actually truly appreciating ourselves and then continuing of ourselves in a cohesive and meaningful way. How can I become a better version of myself if I’m ashamed of what I do to become a better version of myself?

The answer is I cannot. It is its own catch-22 and it cannot be negotiated. At some point you have to confront this and change the way you see what it is that you do. We talk like we are proud of what we do but we do it in Shadow. How proud can we be?

No More Apologies.


Hello fellow tg .. I sincerely believe that your questioning is based on 3 fundamental pillars or questions:
1) Is he embarrassed? Why?
2) If the answer is no, because then you hide it or hide it and do it secretly?
3) What is more valuable, a large natural penis OR a large phallo-contraction penis?
My general answers to these 3 questions would be …
1) Before seeing your post about doing them secretly I did not feel any shame … but rather pride and both my girlfriend and people around me in general knew it and was surprised, for example, a friend without rights, that is to say true friend She told me that she was amazed and that I wish her boyfriend would do the same. For my part I was delighted … however, that moment came to think that not ALL. The people or the girls I sleep with know, then, because the occult asks me … which made me feel a little insecure and embarrassed given the reflection that you made me have TG
2) In a way, is not well seen by society and the world is not as we would like, is how it is and walking saying we do pe I think it is cause for ridicule and stupidity of that style, not because this evil that we do, simply ordinary people do not see it with good eyes and I think it responds to me “WHY DO I HIDE IT or do it HIDDEN? I think it is not so much for internal validation, but for external validation as it catalogs us as someone with little endowment little self-esteem little masculinity etc …
3) honestly I believe that the fable of the diamond and the pearl explains it very well, even more, I even dare to say that it has more merit to be faloculturist and to have 18cm x 6inches starting from 13cm x 11 CM since only one received it such which fitness girl goes gifted girl, maybe both have equivalences of score according to physical, however the personality of the “fitness girl” will have greater value since she based on effort and having a strong personality got it, and surely what Be equal in all aspects of your life. Therefore in equal conditions a natural big penis vs a big penis faloculturist if only look at the sizes, will win the one that is bigger, or better fulfill its function and sexual descent.
So here is my reflexion partner “thoughtfulgold” is only my small contribution and opinion about what you had raised
A greeting!


Ladrillo a ladrillo se forma el castillo.

Medidas: 15.5 bp x 12 eg

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold

Close to 4.4” exactly 9 years ago this month.

So increadible. It must be surreal for you


Starting stats BPEL: 5 in. MSEG: 4 1/4 in

Current stats BPEL 5.4 in. MSEG 4 1/4 in.

Goal BPEL: 6 in. MSEG: 5 in.

I do believe nowadays manual PE is no longer a secret, and maybe more people are doing it secretly than we could imagine, or not..Anyway, in a normal society claiming you are doing PE is like claiming you re small/no sex life/chronic masturbator/weirdo/etc. It s more like a macho thing, being a man presumably involves not working on manhood..Many people, at least where i m from, have a low opinion on men who are too overwhelmed with bodybuilding too, as in “they think only about themselves, narcisists, etc”.

Doing PE/bodybuilding should denote that you are interested in a woman s feelings/partner s sex life/ overall healthiness of your body/etc..People are naturally mean and meddlers who love OTHER people s business and love to HATE or DISLIKE other people s occupations/hobbies for their own amusement, at least where i m from, so yeah, people are selfish, but not the ones doing bodybuilding/PE like it is said…that is hating to say the least

El Problema Está En Nuestra Cabeza(Respuesta En Español)

Además de lo ya mencionado, creo que en una sección de tu escrito, dices “tengo miedo de que me descubran que no soy natural y que lo que he hecho pierda valor”, la cual nace o parte de la idea que lo genéticamente dado por la naturaleza es aquello que tiene valor, a fin de ceunta. No obstante según mis creencias si te enfocas desde una perspectiva más “ganadora” por asi decirlo, el hecho de tener un gran tamaño natural nosé si es tan digno de elogio ya que no hiciste nada por obtenerlo, solo se trata de azar. Y otro que lo consiguió con sudor y esfuerzo si tendría que ser glorificado y elogiado por dedicación, esfuerzo, disciplina, ambicion, y por supuesto tamaño, ya que lo tiene y punto!

no es un tamaño conseguido por bomba momentáneo(nosé si me hago entender).

Por tanto, si nos guiamos por esa lógica aquellas personas ricas que nacen en una familia millonaria, ¿ tienen más valor que aquellas que lo consiguieron con su esfuerzo?

Si así es déjame decirte que escupo en ese pensamiento, el orgullo propio no tiene nada que ver con la validación externa la cual hoy en día el P.E es rechazada en MAYORIA por los mismos hombres reprimidos y cuadrados que existen.

Lo nuestro no es una operación de senos, (la cual en mí parecer no tiene mérito, pero tampoco habría que invalidarla ..porque hoy en día se realiza con células madre y queda bien ) ya que más vale ser no natural ..

pero si mejor que antes.

ARRIBA EL KAIZEN!

Saludos compañeros !


Ladrillo a ladrillo se forma el castillo.

Medidas: 15.5 bp x 12 eg

The problem is in our mind (Answer In English)

In addition to the aforementioned, I believe that in a section of your writing, you say “I am afraid of being discovered that I am not natural and that what I have done loses value”, which is born or part of the idea that genetically given by Nature is that which has value, in order to cetate. However according to my beliefs if you focus from a more “winning” perspective, so to speak, the fact of having a large natural size I do not know if it is so praiseworthy since you did not do anything to get it, it’s just random. And another one that got it with sweat and effort if it would have to be glorified and praised for dedication, effort, discipline, ambition, and of course size, since it has it and that’s it!

It is not a size achieved by a momentary pump (I do not know if it makes me understand).

Therefore, if we are guided by this logic, those rich people who are born in a millionaire family, have more value than those who achieved it with their effort?

If so let me tell you that I spit in that thought, self-pride has nothing to do with external validation which today P.E is rejected in MAJORITY by the same repressed and squared men that exist.

Ours is not a breast operation, (which in my opinion has no merit, but neither should it be invalidated … because today it is done with stem cells and looks good) as it is better to be unnatural ..

but if better than before.

UP THE KAIZEN!

Greetings, fellows!


Ladrillo a ladrillo se forma el castillo.

Medidas: 15.5 bp x 12 eg

Hi 9mm,

You pose a lot of interesting ideas. I like where you are coming from and feel you understand what I meant.

I do not feel there should be shame in doing PE. But here in the US there certainly is. That’s my issue.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Tg Respuesta En Español

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Hi 9mm,

You pose a lot of interesting ideas. I like where you are coming from and feel you understand what I meant.

I do not feel there should be shame in doing PE. But here in the US there certainly is. That’s my issue.


Gracias ! Sinceramente por azares de la vida siento que compartimos una “maldición” por así decirlo, en la cual soy muy analitico, el solo hecho de leer tu post me obsesionó en sentir aquello que decías y dar una respuesta a tal problemática. Siento que tus reflexiones e ideas condicen mucho conmigo, y me resultan muy interesantes, en otro caso, no gastaria mí tiempo en responder.
Actualmente vivo en Buenos Aires, Argentina
Y no solo se dan en tu pais, aquel rechazo por la sociedad, sino que al igual que en Estados Unidos, en Latinoamérica y Europa el p.e no es más que un conjunto de “supuestas” técnicas para frikis que tienen el pene pequeño, no obstante, es algo que está impuesto y por más que salgamos a mostrar que no “habría” que tener vergüenza en mostrar nuestro “secreto” el mundo seguiría jusgandonos porque aún no es aceptado por nuestra cultura.
Por ejemplo, mí novia sabe del p.e y no le causa ningún rechazo, al contrario me admira y trata de imitarme en muchas de las cosas que hago, ya que en mí caso particular intento perseguir la excelencia y felicidad en aquellos ámbitos que me realizan como ser humano. De acuerdo a los valores que tengas te moverás en la vida, yo siento mucho orgullo por cada maldito segundo de p.e, no obstante no lo ando contando a la gente, ya que si solo me va a traer problemas, o cuestionamientos absurdos, prefiero evitarlo.
Me baso en el echo de que el orgullo propio, no tiene porqué ser igual a la validación externa, la vergüenza no parte del p.e cómo tal, sino que comienza en el que van a decir, es como el hecho de por ejemplo:
Ser Batman.
Batman no creo que sienta asco del hecho de ser un superhéroe y por eso se oculta bajo una identidad, el lo hace para evitar problemas, para que no conozcan identifiquen y maten a su familia, en definitiva poder vivir una vida normal tranquilo. No porque le de vergüenza, sino por inteligencia, por audacia,¿ y si lo descubren?
Depende QUIEN lo descubra, el sigue siendo Batman, al fin y al cabo si un ciudadano lo descubre tal vez se asombre, no obstante si lo descubre un villano, ahí está en un problema.
Nosé si logras entender la comparativa y el ejemplo.
Ayer desde que leí tu post, estube todo el día intentando resolver tal contradicción entre lo que decimos y hacemos, pero e aquí mí respuesta.(aunque es solo mí opinión subjetiva, no tiene porqué ser la verdad absoluta, definitivamente pueden haber muchas más respuestas según las perspectivas de cada uno)
Volviendo al comienzo de este post, hay muchas actitudes y valores tuyos en los que me veo muy reflejado. Mí viaje recién comienza, en donde el tuyo ya comenzó hace rato. Espero poder discutir y reflexionar de estos temas tan abstractos para la mayoría de las personas, cómo atrapantes para nosotros (los más frikis jaja) (chiste chiste). Sin más preámbulo un saludo compañero TG!


Ladrillo a ladrillo se forma el castillo.

Medidas: 15.5 bp x 12 eg

Tg! Answer In English

Thank you ! Sincerely for the hazards of life I feel we share a “curse” so to speak, in which I am very analytical, the mere fact of reading your post obsessed me in feeling what you said and give an answer to such a problem. I feel that your reflections and ideas are very important to me, and I find them very interesting, otherwise, I would not spend my time answering.

I currently live in Buenos Aires, Argentina

And not only in your country, that rejection by society, but as in the United States, in Latin America and Europe the pe is nothing more than a set of “supposed” techniques for geeks who have small penis, not However, it is something that is imposed and no matter how much we go out to show that there would be “no” to be ashamed to show our “secret” the world would continue to judge us because it is not yet accepted by our culture.

For example, my girlfriend knows about the pe and does not cause any rejection, on the contrary she admires me and tries to imitate me in many of the things that I do, since in my particular case I try to pursue excellence and happiness in those areas that make me human being. According to the values ​​you have you will move in life, I feel very proud for every damn second of pe, however I do not tell people, because if only I will bring problems, or absurd questions, I prefer to avoid it .

I am based on the fact that self-pride does not have to be the same as external validation, shame does not start from how such, but begins in which they will say, it is like the fact of for example:

Be Batman.

Batman I do not think he feels disgusted by the fact of being a superhero and that is why he hides under an identity, he does it to avoid problems, so that they do not know how to identify and kill his family, in short, to be able to live a normal, peaceful life. Not because of shame, but because of intelligence, audacity, and if they discover it?

It depends WHO discovers it, he is still Batman, after all if a citizen discovers it he may be surprised, however if a villain discovers it, he is in trouble.

I wonder if you can understand comparative and example.

Yesterday since I read your post, I spent the whole day trying to resolve such a contradiction between what we say and do, but here is my answer (although it is only my subjective opinion, it does not have to be the absolute truth, there can definitely be many more answers according to the perspectives of each one)

Going back to the beginning of this post, there are many attitudes and values ​​of yours in which I see myself very reflected


Ladrillo a ladrillo se forma el castillo.

Medidas: 15.5 bp x 12 eg


Last edited by 9mm : 08-16-2018 at . Reason: Errores ortográficos

Answer In English 2

…My trip is just beginning, where yours has already started a while ago. I hope to be able to discuss and reflect on these abstract subjects for most people, how they are captivating for us (the most frikis haha) (joke). Without further ado a hello fellow TG!


Ladrillo a ladrillo se forma el castillo.

Medidas: 15.5 bp x 12 eg

Originally Posted by trynagrow
So increadible. It must be surreal for you

It is. I talk about it in different posts when it comes to mind.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

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