Penis Size - A realistic view

Maxtro, size anxiety isn’t limited to people who actually are on the small side. Since average dicks are more common than smaller ones, most guys who show up will start in that 5-7 inch range. Whatever they start at, if they didn’t feel small, or want to be bigger, they wouldn’t be here. It does annoy me just a little when people who are clearly large already insist they are small. I try to keep an eye on reality and not just my “feeling” about what size is normal. The whole “well 6 may be average, but that just means average is small” routine is insensitive at best.

ESPN, 8 is a great goal, just remember its the penis equivalent of making a billion dollars. Many penis size studies fail to find even one 8 inch dick.

Nice reply sta-kool.

Marketing was originally aimed at women. This was because women in affluent households didnt work, so marketeers worked on them to spend money. The main ploy has been to promote feelings of inadequacy in the consumer, whilst promising that this inadequacy will be alleviated by the product. There is a whole discourse that could come out of this on the breakdown of the interpersonal relationships of families driven by feelings of need for certain products.

Marketing essentially was born from PR, which came from the Freudian school, and lets face it, Freud fancied his mother and then thought that the rest of us felt the same way, but I digress.

The point is that the mind thinks that what it sees is the norm, it is designed to protect the human organism from harm and to learn to survive in the world. If you consume media that heavily distorts your subconcious’ view of reality, then you will have a distorted view of the world.

In a society that wants what it sees, whether it be a mercedes, or an ipod or an 8x6 penis, the reality is, that when you get it you arent satisfied as you have been taught to want more than you have.

“Hey, we’re losing all our damn money, and Christmas is around the corner, and I ain’t gonna have no money to buy my son the G.I. Joe with the kung-fu grip! And my wife ain’t gonna f… my wife ain’t gonna make love to me if I got no money!” - Billy ray Valentine

I like the jist of this thread and I agree that pornography has warped mens minds and unfortunately some womens minds on what is the size of the average erection. With that said if you don’t think that the majority of women prefer a penis that is above average then I think you’re fooling yourself.

I do think though that the actors and models although they have more time and money I think high levels of fitness and aesthetics is attainable for almost everyone. Personal trainers do nothing but teach what can be learned alone and motivate you, which you should be able to do yourself. And this is coming from someone who might still want to do some personal training on the side.

If you don’t have enough time to exercise and eat healthy then you’re doing something wrong, get a smaller house or a cheaper car and stop living beyond your means. Another thing is eating less is free so maybe you might not have the muscle size like some movie stars but you can be just as lean, just eat less it’s that simple.

Another thing is gaining muscle size doesn’t take that much time at least to look great to women. 3 hours a week is enough as long as you’re lean which can be done with diet especially if you’ve already gotten there when you were young, staying there is easy. If you don’t have 3 hours a week, stop watching TV, if you still don’t I would go back to you’re doing something wrong.

With 5 hands, its no wonder you like the manual approach.:)

Good thread. As a former 5.5, I lived and enjoyed my life. It was a bout of ED that brought me to the PE world. But, once I entered that world the idea of a bigger unit was born. My primary goal is still penis health with a secondary goal of the WOW. While some posters on Thunders make me wonder why they are here, I think that most of us keep this obsession of ours only slightly warped from reality.

Damien84, good speech about healthy live! I confirm - it doesn’t take that much time. You just got to push yourself little bit at the beginning.. After some time you will realize, that it becomes a good habit.

May I tell you guys (from my point of view) as somebody with over 7 inches penis. You are basically right - it is all about porn and limited sexual life. And it is also about grower/shower issue. My flaccid is not big and I didn’t have many girls - don’t feel myself big. Average - maybe, but not big at all.

Thanks to PE - I feel a lot better about myself now. Hope to fix everything with gaining proper dick for myself and increasing flaccid size.

Good luck to everyone. Grow you perfect size for yourself:)

I still had an 6-8 pack at 38, but it gets harder once you get past 40… and I gave up TV years ago. :)

Firegoat,

I’m sure that is true about going past 40 (testosterone starts to decline) but it’s still possible with diet and exercise. Do you still have a 6 pack? If not did you decrease your amount of exercise or was it just something that happened?

What Damien said. One of the culprits is the issue of creeping estrogen levels in middle age, which too can be attacked with diet.

Firegoat, check these articles out if you get a chance.

For natural ways to boost testosterone, here is my old standby:

13 Ways to Naturally Boost Your Testosterone Levels
http://www.timi nvermont.com/fi … ss/boosttes.htm

Just found this when I googled for the one above. Good specific tips on reducing estrogen levels naturally:

Increase Testosterone Naturally, Decrease Estrogen Levels

When I was training martial arts full time, it was 8-12 hours a day, but that was my entire life; I was living in Asia just doing that, so I was in great shape. I could never put a fraction of that time in now! But when I was in my 20’s, 4 hours a week in the gym kept me in good shape; to be in the same shape now I’d need to work a lot harder. It is entirely possible, certainly, but it does get harder. However, although I don’t look as good, I’m physically stronger than I’ve ever been.

Back to the subject of realistic views of penis size. I don’t want to de-rail this thread as it is valuable and ‘keeping it real’. :D

NMT, I am going to quibble a little bit with this.

I have never seen a scientific study that claims 7" is in the average range. On the other hand I believe I’ve seen self-reported studies that may say that. But I don’t think we can really trust self-reported studies.

For example, let’s take look at what happens around 7" in the lifestyle condom study:

So there is a big drop off around 7, and you can see where most guys fall.

Picture is from Human penis size - Wikipedia
For more info about the lifestyle/ansel condom study see: http://www.mrav … com/results.htm

(Before the question gets asked, several articles I have read about the lifestyles methodology makes it sound like they did a light bone pressed measure. One article indicated they measured from base where the penis meets the pubic bone to the tip. Ruler was on top.)

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The other thing to keep in the back of our minds is "self-selection" bias in these studies.

That basically means that a guy who thinks he is packing or more likely to volunteer to get his dick measured. And a guy who thinks he is small is going to run and hide.

So some sex researchers think that the average size that comes from the scientific studies is too large.

You can make the range smaller and still most men fall in there. I said 5 - 7 because below 5 is very rare, over 7 is even more rare.

Not to say 7 is average, but average guys are all between 5 and 7. Closer to 6 is where the average fall, I think just a little below 6. 7 is pretty big, I mean, only like 2% or 3% of men are 7 or bigger.

Got it. Misunderstood you. You gave some great advice in that post, which I am about to quote.

Maxtro, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I even did a thread a couple years ago called "Thundersplace is giving me size-anxiety."

I think a couple things are worth remembering;

— Thunders probably has a "self-selection posting bias", similar to what I posted about the scientific size studies. In other words bigger guys are more likely to post than average guys and below, who are more likely to lurk.

— I would say that 95% of the bigger guys (8x6’ers) are extremely supportive and are always willing to help out and encourage. There may be 5% of big guys who just want to brag. But you will figure who they are pretty quickly.

— As northmiamitop said, "My huge dick is small" posts can get annoying. But you seriously have to read those posts with a huge gain of salt. Some of them are not very well disguised fishing for compliments. The others aren’t really about the size of the guy’s dick, they are about the guys warped mental perception of his dick. Check out this thread by bohm:

Small penis (Body Dysmorphic) disorder

Pretty interesting I think.

What northmiamitop said is GOLDEN:

Keep it in mind.

Sta-kool you are doing an admirable job as the official Thunder’s psychiatrist :D
In my opinion I don’t think we should get bothered by the “my big dick is small posts”.
Different people have different goals they are trying to reach as far as final penis size is concerned. As long as one has that in mind why would they get involved in someone else’s desired final size? I say that we should grow thicker skins and focus on our own goals.

The guys fishing for compliments are kinda obvious as you said. The rest might not just be a mental thing but could be that they have pushed up their goal.