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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by da_dt
Yes. .75” or ~2cm of gain.

Are y’all saying that the difference of the stretched hang before and after US heat is .75”? Thats a huge difference.

Any commentary on EQ gains? US heating is said to improve EQ.

This is not accurate measuring. Very rudimentary information provided. You have to post your Pre BPFSL and your Post BPFSL. If it is still the same numbers, you have to explain how are you measuring.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
This is not accurate measuring. Very rudimentary information provided. You have to post your Pre BPFSL and your Post BPFSL. If it is still the same numbers, you have to explain how are you measuring.

How much of a difference is your US heated vs non heated BPFSL?

Originally Posted by igigi

This is not accurate measuring. Very rudimentary information provided. You have to post your Pre BPFSL and your Post BPFSL. If it is still the same numbers, you have to explain how are you measuring.

That is exactly what I’ve done. It’s not rocket science to measure bpfsl. Ruler at pi/2 and pushed against the pubic bone while pulling the head with the other hand.

Edit: quoted wrong post.

Originally Posted by djrobins
Are y’all saying that the difference of the stretched hang before and after US heat is .75”? Thats a huge difference.

Any commentary on EQ gains? US heating is said to improve EQ.

Yes, that’s what I’m saying and the reason for my question since it is such a large difference. I’ve never had much elasticity in my flaccid and wondered if it was the steel cord which led me to US.

I haven’t noticed eq improvements yet but I’m only two sessions in.

Originally Posted by da_dt
Yes, that’s what I’m saying and the reason for my question since it is such a large difference. I’ve never had much elasticity in my flaccid and wondered if it was the steel cord which led me to US.

I haven’t noticed eq improvements yet but I’m only two sessions in.

Shit. .75” is a HUGE change. From my old data it took like 30-60 days for the BPEL to register a similar change. Awesome.

Damn, stuck on the septum and adding US heat gives .5-1” almost instantly. Awesome.

Originally Posted by djrobins
Shit. .75” is a HUGE change. From my old data it took like 30-60 days for the BPEL to register a similar change. Awesome.

Damn, stuck on the septum and adding US heat gives .5-1” almost instantly. Awesome.


I know! I’m not sure if it’s a problem or a blessing. We’ll see if any bpel comes. I would certainly hope for the same amount of change but don’t expect any. My last measurement a couple weeks ago was 7.75”

Originally Posted by da_dt
I know! I’m not sure if it’s a problem or a blessing. We’ll see if any bpel comes. I would certainly hope for the same amount of change but don’t expect any. My last measurement a couple weeks ago was 7.75”

Let us know after 30 days of US heat workouts.

Yes, I have the same stress problem as I have at the time the US sits 10% but the gains disappear the next day

After a US cool down under tension, has anyone tried using ice cold water to further attempt to cement some of the gains, while still under tension.

In general for PE, I have searched a bit and found that some like cold pumping. Some like a post PE heated warm down to get freshly oxygenated blood circulating and then switch to cold compressed or ice cold water in attempts to cement the gains.

We are always taught the R.I.C.E. procedure as basic first aid for strains and trauma, to prevent swelling. PE is trauma.

Rest
Ice
Compression
Elevation

Very interested to hear more feedback on this.

(When I read these threads I feel like I am binge watching an amazing TV show.)


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

I tried this technique, but unfortunately it failed. After applying ice water after the US session, the penis begins to shrink and retract terribly.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
I tried this technique, but unfortunately it failed. After applying ice water after the US session, the penis begins to shrink and retract terribly.

They said apply while under tension.

Originally Posted by Stixman
After a US cool down under tension, has anyone tried using ice cold water to further attempt to cement some of the gains, while still under tension.

In general for PE, I have searched a bit and found that some like cold pumping. Some like a post PE heated warm down to get freshly oxygenated blood circulating and then switch to cold compressed or ice cold water in attempts to cement the gains.

We are always taught the R.I.C.E. procedure as basic first aid for strains and trauma, to prevent swelling. PE is trauma.

Rest
Ice
Compression
Elevation

Very interested to hear more feedback on this.

(When I read these threads I feel like I am binge watching an amazing TV show.)

I believe this topic was touched at some point at Kyrpa’s thread.

However, yes, PE has always been trauma, but it shouldn’t. And that is one of the key points of this US approach. Trauma comes with inflammation. And inflammation leads to toughening of the tissues which is what we need to avoid at all costs.

The purpose of the US therapy is to keep the tension high enough to provide a controlled strain, but NEVER to cause inflammation. This is not the same process we use to exercise skeletal muscle in which that trauma in the muscle fibers make them grow bigger and stronger. In this case of the Septum, trauma wont make it grow bigger, but it will grow stronger. Not the ideal approach.

By keeping trauma and inflammation away from the septum, we are allowing a re-organization of the collagen and elastin fibers of this connective tissue which leads to this bigger elasticity/size.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Gentlemen,

First of all I want to thank all the contributors on this forum for giving me the tools to push foward with PE.

I’ve been lurking around these forums for quite some time, especially surrounding the threads regarding US as an aid for PE. And I finally decided to create an user and now putting out my first post. Hopefully some of my data would help the process further and for me to receive some guidance on my further process.

My setup for the moment is quite simple. I’m running on 2pcs US2000, analog fishing scale tied to a desk, Pmpro vacuum bell, outdoor thermometer for temp control, Rice sock for stress relax.
The session itself are :Stress relaxation 15 min external heat (1.5kg), US heat 20min (3kg), cold stretch 10 min.

I’ve attached my progress, as there were some issues with copy/paste excel data.

So based on the numbers my strain rate are nowhere near the suggested optimal level on 2.3%? Strain. However I’m ticking in an increase after each session. Total lenght increase are BPFSL +1.5cm and BPEL +1.9cm after 14 sessions with the US assisted PE.

Lessons learned so far:
- invest in a proper vacuum bell for the glans(Ebay copies provides slippages, edema and pain)
- Use more gel than you think is necessary
- Be sure to control temperature
- cold stretch should not be done with vacuum attachment

Upgrades to my existing setup would be the following:
- Thermometer and data logger to provide constant condition updates and historical figures.
- Rebuild vacuum bell to be used with vacuum-press with gauge.
- Digital scale to improve load control

Now to my questions:
- What might be the issue regarding the strain rate? Each US-session last 20 minutes, whereas 12-13 minutes of the session I’m averaging on 41 degrees Celsius. If I’m going over 3.6-3.8 kg there are development of edema just below frenulum so increasing weight is probably not correct for me at this stage. If I’m not mistaken the optimal strain rate are based on data from some of the forum members? Such as Kyrpa, Manko, etc. Would it be wise trying to chase these numbers at all?
- Should I spend more time during stress relaxation? Not showing too much of an alteration in pre-heat vs post stress relaxation.

Thank you all again, and please forgive my English as this is not my native language.

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