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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by MHedberg
These dooshbags aren’t responding to you because they didn’t like your politics in other threads.

You need a psychiatrist.

What he is asking has been explained and debated multiple times in multiple threads.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Surely there should be models capable of tuning for your application.

You just gave me more homework to do LOL


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
You need a psychiatrist.

What he is asking has been explained and debated multiple times in multiple threads.

I think I need it as well. Actually, we all need it.

The PE should consist of three years of highly productive gaining practices with a combination of psychotherapy for getting out of the ridiculous need for a bigger penis. Not only we would have bigger penises but we should also forget it was too small in the first place.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by MHedberg

These dooshbags aren’t responding to you because they didn’t like your politics in other threads.

MHedberg consider this a warning on posting content. Do not derail PE focused threads with political content- leave the political content in the political threads.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.5” BPEL; 7” NBPEL; 8.25” BPFSL; 6.25” - 6.5” MEG w/ c-ring.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I think I need it as well. Actually, we all need it.

The PE should consist of three years of highly productive gaining practices with a combination of psychotherapy for getting out of the ridiculous need for a bigger penis. Not only we would have bigger penises but we should also forget it was too small in the first place.

I literally laughed my ass off. It is true though. We are desensitized to some degree with what we do. I am sure if you tell any co-worker “I gotta get home now to workout my dick for a couple of hours with ultrasound machines” They would all recommend us to go seek help immediately LMFAO!!

I am sure only we in this game understand each other with this. I believe I am worse, that have achieved already a healthy enhanced dick, but I am still obsessed with growing up to a foot of meat LOL


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Hello everyone, I am asking for an advice to everyone (and also to Kyrpa who is our guru) to resolve some doubts and start training as I have all the material. I have been practicing PE since 2005 with poor results and I decided to commit and try this method. I have read all the posts in this forum and I am reading the posts in the “gaining volume with Kyrpa” forum. Now I would like to start to put into practice what I have read and am reading (because the material is so much and I’m doing a lot of confusion, also because I’m not a native English speaker) and I wanted to ask you some things:

1. I have a single US Pro 2000 2nd for now, instead of putting it against my thigh I bought this: https://www.parkerlabs.com/aquaflex.asp . Can I put it on the opposite side of the US (so that the waves don’t come out, as if it were a heating pad)? And does the thermocouple go between this and the dorsal part?

2. I read that Kyrpa did various cycles and various routines: I can have PE only in the evening. So I would do this: first phase 30 minutes (stress relaxation 1-2 kg), then 20 minutes ( US 2-4 kg) and then 10 minutes (fulcrum stretch). Some posts mentioned that girth follows length, so don’t I have to jelq? Or do I jelq during rest periods?

3. How many weeks of training and how many weeks of rest do you practice?

4. As I’m having trouble getting an erection (since so far, I need to use viagra), I didn’t understand how to do the “penile bodybuilding” exercise (post 12 of “gaining volume with Kyrpa”), maybe about IS muscle do I have to stretch in front of me and about BS muscle do I have an A-stretch and at the same time do I have kegels?

These are my first doubts: I tried to read the posts to solve them but till now I could not find any solutions. It is 3 months that I have been reading and now I want to practice to better understand and to test what I have read.

Thanks to all for any advice :)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
1. Every ultrasound therapy machine has pulsed waveform in general. It is the nature of the electronics providing the wave format needed to form the alternating voltage piezo electrical transducer needs for operating. The continuous mode referred is the 100% duty cycle. Putting the waveform out in a continuous fashion.

In your case the H setting which provides the maximum intensity of 1.6w/cm^2 . The lower settings give out the same waveform but in a pulsed patterns, which are called 50% duty cycle M and 0.8w/cm^ 50% on 50% off.

Interesting thank you, so only the High setting on the device should be used then.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
2. Someone asked if the wood is safe to use as a reflector. Which is fine.

But if you read and understand your reading we are pretty much not after reflectors.
Especially with 1MHz we don’t want it to reflect back. As a opposite we need to have continuity at the boundary of the backing medium and the shaft. This can be achieved with using materials having similar to flesh, particularly connective tissue acoustic properties.

I’ve seen we need a boundary on the opposing end of the penis for the ultrasound to work properly, wasn’t sure what the reflecting terminology means exactly, but that’s not necessary either. Ultimately, for almost everyone, the only thing that matters is knowing “what works properly”. The same as most people don’t know how computer chips work exactly, but everyone in society is using them daily.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
The short list is in a top five format.
Water, ultrasound gel pads, ultrasound standoffs, your thigh, silicone rubbers

The water part is confusing to me, although I’m not planning on using this device near water anyway. We should be able to create lists for the two components that are needed to use the device:

1. Lubricant
2. Something solid on the opposite end of the penis

I’m very underwhelmed by the gel that came with the ultrasound device. It seems to dry almost instantly. Someone mentioned they use saliva, is that acceptable for lubricant? What about various oils?

Much talk about US Pro 2000 SE.
It’s 1 MHz and 1,6 W/cm2.

How about those Devices on ebay from India that have 1 and 3 MHz option and 3,5 W/cm2 ? Would that be better if specs are true and are they true?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124386354194

Originally Posted by igigi
What he is asking has been explained and debated multiple times in multiple threads.

People don’t have time to search through and read everything that’s buried. The search function on this website is rather poor to begin with. Other issues - people may forget a detail (and then don’t know where to find it again) or are facing an information overload. Many people are saying they’re having trouble envisioning what to do exactly or don’t understand certain things. You could have simply answered, you are spending time writing useless responses here instead; who does that help?

Information needs to be gathered and put in a single easily accessible place. That’s the efficient and responsible thing to do for any subject. I’m not sure where exactly that place should be on Thunders, but I would definitely suggest a “Master Post” for each general PE topic somewhere on Thunders that people can go to in order to quickly find the most relevant info.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
Much talk about US Pro 2000 SE.
It’s 1 MHz and 1,6 W/cm2.

How about those Devices on ebay from India that have 1 and 3 MHz option and 3,5 W/cm2 ? Would that be better if specs are true and are they true?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124386354194

It’s been said that more than 2 W/cm2 is considered “not entirely safe” right now. Also that devices from India are much more unreliable.

Originally Posted by Escando
People don’t have time to search through and read everything that’s buried. The search function on this website is rather poor to begin with. Other issues - people may forget a detail (and then don’t know where to find it again) or are facing an information overload. Many people are saying they’re having trouble envisioning what to do exactly or don’t understand certain things. You could have simply answered, you are spending time writing useless responses here instead; who does that help?

But we have to remember that it’s nobodys obligation to respond questions here and use their own time. I am always very thankful if someone responds my question, because I myself don’t have much free time and appreciate very much if some unknown people use their time and respond my answer.

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Information needs to be gathered and put in a single easily accessible place. That’s the efficient and responsible thing to do for any subject. I’m not sure where exactly that place should be on Thunders, but I would definitely suggest a “Master Post” for each general PE topic somewhere on Thunders that people can go to in order to quickly find the most relevant info.

This master post would be great. Of course not all info can’t be in one post. I myself have gathered good posts about PE on word file.

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It’s been said that more than 2 W/cm2 is considered “not entirely safe” right now. Also that devices from India are much more unreliable.

Ok. Agree that those devices could be anything quality wise. But wouldn’t more power just heat tissues faster? There must be then something else happening in tissues than purely heating. Better to stay safe and if US 2000 SE gets the job done, no need to more power.

Example
1,6 W / cm2 for 10s = 16 J / cm2
3,5 W / cm2 for 4,57s = 16 J / cm2

Originally Posted by Escando
People don’t have time to search through and read everything that’s buried. The search function on this website is rather poor to begin with. Other issues - people may forget a detail (and then don’t know where to find it again) or are facing an information overload. Many people are saying they’re having trouble envisioning what to do exactly or don’t understand certain things. You could have simply answered, you are spending time writing useless responses here instead; who does that help?

Information needs to be gathered and put in a single easily accessible place. That’s the efficient and responsible thing to do for any subject. I’m not sure where exactly that place should be on Thunders, but I would definitely suggest a “Master Post” for each general PE topic somewhere on Thunders that people can go to in order to quickly find the most relevant info.

Thats your problem, nobody is here to serve you as a princess. Information doesnt need to be put anywhere. It is already here, your choice to read it or not. If you dont have time, your problem, not ours. Be accountable, be respectful. You already started with a bad attitude very low class attacking others who have put hours, days, weeks, months and years of research to come here demanding answers in an anarchistic way. Nobody “has” to answer to you.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Guys, having a baby now and little time to PE, I am using the avocet8 approach to pumping (3x10 mins at 5hg heated pumping sets with short massage breaks in between).

I have been starting to stop the electric heat pad midset on the last set in order to replicate a bit of what is this thread. I might also stop the massage after the last set to let my unit stay further elongated.

I’m quite hopeful this minimalistic approach to PE can bring in some gains. I’ll report here if useful. If i don’t gain, i’ll try the short extender + short pumping session variation.

If anyone has any advise to improve upon that routine they would also be welcomed.


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Started August 2018: BPEL/MEG 5.7" x 5" - Now: 6.1" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: BPEL/MEG 8.5" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by Trapezius
Much talk about US Pro 2000 SE.
It’s 1 MHz and 1,6 W/cm2.

How about those Devices on ebay from India that have 1 and 3 MHz option and 3,5 W/cm2 ? Would that be better if specs are true and are they true?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124386354194

I tested them. They are garbage.

Originally Posted by Tutt
I tested them. They are garbage.

Thank you for the info.

What would be optimal device for this application? 3 MHz would be better than 1.

Originally Posted by Escando
People don’t have time to search through and read everything that’s buried. The search function on this website is rather poor to begin with. Other issues - people may forget a detail (and then don’t know where to find it again) or are facing an information overload. Many people are saying they’re having trouble envisioning what to do exactly or don’t understand certain things. You could have simply answered, you are spending time writing useless responses here instead; who does that help?

Information needs to be gathered and put in a single easily accessible place. That’s the efficient and responsible thing to do for any subject. I’m not sure where exactly that place should be on Thunders, but I would definitely suggest a “Master Post” for each general PE topic somewhere on Thunders that people can go to in order to quickly find the most relevant info.

It’s been said that more than 2 W/cm2 is considered “not entirely safe” right now. Also that devices from India are much more unreliable.


Up to 3w/cm^2 is concidered to be safe in physical therapy. Yet poorly tolerated.

With 1 MHz and 3 MHz machinery.
We are trying to approach this from downwards, with as less intensity and heating time as possible.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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