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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Yeah. It sounds.

The delivery is a completely different thing.
I would like to see the numbers.
Urethral temperature readings.

Readings would be interresting and comparing them to previous data from conductive heat experiments. I would believe constantly hot water would result slightly higher urethal temperatures because water is such outstanding heat conductor. Optimal temperatures cannot be reached because not much over 41 C is highest tolerable water temperature to skin and urethal temperatures are something lower.

What if one has fever and body temperature is 40 C. Would that be great time to do PE? :D

Hi! I tried the routine for the first time today and had a problem with the temperature - I couldn’t get it up to 40 degrees. How long does it take you guys?

If I put a heating pad on the opposite side of the US pro, I could reach but the thermocouple was in contact with the heating pad so the temperature was the one of the heating pad, if I use aquagel, I reach only 35 degrees .. How do you reach it? Thanks

Originally Posted by eagle77
Hi! I tried the routine for the first time today and had a problem with the temperature - I couldn’t get it up to 40 degrees. How long does it take you guys?
If I put a heating pad on the opposite side of the US pro, I could reach but the thermocouple was in contact with the heating pad so the temperature was the one of the heating pad, if I use aquagel, I reach only 35 degrees .. How do you reach it? Thanks

I think you have to put sensor inside uretha to measure tissue temperature inside shaft.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
Thank you for the info.

What would be optimal device for this application? 3 MHz would be better than 1.

There isn’t really in optimal across all circumstances. The machines that have both are quite a bit more expensive but allow flexibility. IMO, the ergonomics are more important than the frequency. Both frequencies work just fine as long as the practitioner is adept at applying sufficient energy. More ergonomic devices are forgiving whereas less ergonomic devices require more skill.

Originally Posted by eagle77
Hi! I tried the routine for the first time today and had a problem with the temperature - I couldn’t get it up to 40 degrees. How long does it take you guys?
If I put a heating pad on the opposite side of the US pro, I could reach but the thermocouple was in contact with the heating pad so the temperature was the one of the heating pad, if I use aquagel, I reach only 35 degrees .. How do you reach it? Thanks

Unless you are willing to put the probe in your urethra, you don’t really know what the temp is. Fortunately, your nerves are quite good at letting you know when you are exceeding about 42C. The internal tissues should feel notably hot, ALMOST to the point of pain. Sneak up on it slowly as you first get used to it. After a bit you’ll get used to what it feels like. Especially with extended sessions more than 20-30minutes I would describe the sensation as uncomfortably warm. But not hot to the point that I’m wincing and my palms are sweating.

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Originally Posted by Tutt
Unless you are willing to put the probe in your urethra, you don’t really know what the temp is. Fortunately, your nerves are quite good at letting you know when you are exceeding about 42C. The internal tissues should feel notably hot, ALMOST to the point of pain. Sneak up on it slowly as you first get used to it. After a bit you’ll get used to what it feels like. Especially with extended sessions more than 20-30minutes I would describe the sensation as uncomfortably warm. But not hot to the point that I’m wincing and my palms are sweating.

Thank you Trapezius and Tutt…however I could not put anything in the urethra because there is the vacuum cap on attached to the weights. I will go on trying to feel my sensations, and using the US with regular movements without stopping for more than some seconds in a specific point….let us see :)

Yeah, um, I’m definitely not going to be sticking something in my urethra. If the ultrasound is being applied correctly and for the requisite amount of time, that should be plenty. Just need a consistent system. Which on that subject, I’m still not sure, is it safe to be rubbing the device around the very base of the penis, and how exactly are people going about it if so? It seems like that area should be important to loosen up, but at the time time I feel uncomfortable about waves being sent inside the body around that area.

What lubricants are people seeing as being workable/best for the ultrasound? I’d like to gather more information about that, it really feels like the “standard” gel is not ideal and there should be something better to use.

Originally Posted by igigi
Information doesnt need to be put anywhere.

Of course it needs to be, if the goal is to have an actual accessible system. Hence the reason you see a “Newbie Routine” guide on this website, and an FAQ, and a section of tutorial videos. Gathered information. Same as any other subject. Why do you think Wiki’s exist? Or any kind of classification or reference systems? Instead of writing troll/insult posts (which don’t make you look more important, as you’re hoping for), you might as well say something productive if you’re taking the time to respond. Otherwise it’s just a negative waste of space.

Originally Posted by Escando
Yeah, um, I’m definitely not going to be sticking something in my urethra. If the ultrasound is being applied correctly and for the requisite amount of time, that should be plenty.

We have to be thankful to those who measured urethal temperatures. Otherwise we would not have any clue how long and with what power is required to get those +40C tissue temperatures.
I would believe that if one goes overboard with temperature it definitely feels bad.

Thanks Again Rocco25. Always coming through with helpful information and support.


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So I finally began my Ultrasound Journey.

I was planning on starting a new log but have been way too busy with work, fixing things at home, family, etc. As such, I am also having a difficult time maintaining a steady routine.

In general, I had some issues getting the proper heat levels in the therapeutic range. I quickly learned that the digital “K” temperature scales are polarized and must be plugged in so the “+” symbol on the probe matches up to the “+” symbol on the thermometer base unit. (I purchased 2 models from different companies. One might work better than the other but need to test more first before commenting further).

So after a few tries I was able to go through a list of troubleshooting tips and was able to hit the proper temps by using my fingers to squeeze my shaft onto the US prob. Definitely felt uncomfortable on my fingers at times but I kinda ignored it or slightly moved my fingers. We do have a ton of nerve endings at the tips of our fingers…

After a few more tries, I used the “Crystal Clear Gorilla Tape” recommended by Igigi. I was a bit intimidated by the name of the tape but it works extremely well and it isn’t too bad to remove especially if I get it moist from gel, lube or water. The tape really held the K temp probs in place the entire session and this removed a big struggle I was having.

After 5 sessions, I am very good at using only one US probe to maintain temps above 40C as monitored by 2 separate K temp probes. I am able to get up to 43C and a bit beyond for a slit second. I definitely feel the heat and there are many times I must move the probe due to slight pain. (This was while in an extender for the first time and I have not tried to replicate this OTL yet, however, I like the extender better).

I am having a difficult time with the stress relaxation portion using a pulley, hanging weight and using a clamp to maintain a particular stretched length (particular stain length) and decided to test the extender.

I have removed the springs from my traction extender and am getting great results with stress relaxation. It is in this device which I have had the great success of achieving and maintaining the proper therapeutic temps.

The odd thing is that I am able to achieve the proper temps which I am in my extender and it is pointed straight out and I do not have any backing material for the US waves to bounce back on. (I was planning on putting a bag of rice or beans on my stomach for protection of the waves and then some Ultrasound phantoms followed by US gel, followed by the dorsal (back side) of my Dick which already has 2 K probs attached.

Is it okay that I can reach the temps when straight out in the extender with no backing material? I place the US prob on the Ventral (underside) of my Dick, with lots of US gel reapplications. It heats through my shaft to the dorsal side where I have 2 K probes taped. Then there is just air and no phantom and no flesh as backing, again, my dorsal side is just exposed to air.

Second question. Since the heating has been working well, when I finish the session, I remove the K probes from the dorsal side and apply the US prob to the dorsal side for 5 mins to try to heat the CS. Again, the ventral side is only exposed to air but the heat feels strong within.
Any feedback?

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Hey Stix,

great that it starts with you! I’m not sure what frequency you are working with. But if it’s 1 MHz, I’m surprised you’re getting along without phantom or OTL. I had immense pain on the skin of the dorsal side without my silicone pad or other phantoms.

Even though I only make it to fifth place in Kyrpä’s epic ranking, I’m sold on the silicone thing. I notice that the silicone pad shrinks under US :)
But whatever solution you prefer, I think it’s better to work with a phantom if you’re using 1 MHz. For this again the reading: Heating problems with extender users

Unfortunately, I can’t say anything about your second question. I have a hard time with the idea that your CS is shortened, so I don’t see the benefit of this action. Moreover, I think that you will not do much with 5 min US. Our “medicine men” can tell you more about it. I have too little idea of anatomy, I am rather the mechanic.

Thanks. I am using the US Pro 2nd Edition, 1 MHz.

It feels good and the thermometer is showing great heating. However, I will test out the phantoms I have. I will make a holder to keep it in place.


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