Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Points made, we will continue the as we were.

Pics, tutorials and manuscripts will most certainly arrive. Not on demand but as they are produced. If someone will miss an opportunity waiting, it is his bad, can`t help with that.

I have looked at your proposal again and now the gap closes. I had overlooked that you want to apply US from above. Sorry for that.

Under these circumstances, your setup with 3 MHz will probably work fine, as Kyrpä has already written. If you want to work with 1 MHz, you will probably have to turn the whole thing upside down. That means US pad and heating pad on top, US on the bottom (ventral). If you turn the setup around, you can also support with IR from above instead of heating pad. This is how I did it. The US pad sticks thanks to the US gel and nothing falls off.

And, if sandwiching the shaft between two ultrasound standoffs, the 1 MHz work as well if applied dorsally.

Not worth the time. Sorry for the hijack Kyrpa. Please proceed.

Caravan goes on. There are few things still to come.

It took me a while to find it, here’s the link. Tutt - Gaining volume with Kyrpa Yeah this is pretty much what I was thinking about, although I might leave out the foot-controllable electric motor.

Well here’s the thing. If someone wants to find relevant info, then my own post is definitely garbage as well. To me it would make a lot of sense to have two separate threads:
1) First, one simple tutorial reflecting the current state of progress and a faq section. There really isn’t that much needed, just a short explanation of each step, the reasoning behind it and links to the posts where this is discussed more thoroughly. You lock the thread to avoid unnecessary spam.
For instance:
A) start with 30 minutes of low weight stress-relaxation routine. Do this and that so that your penis gets this and that.
In the faq there’d be a short explanation of what are stress-relaxation (SR), strain and creep, because the terminology here makes absolutely no sense to a beginner. Also add a couple of links to the relevant SR discussions here on thunders.
B) do the next 20 minutes ultrasounding you penis leaving no room between the transducer and the skin, keep checking the temperature and use whatever tension was supposed to be used.
To relate to this point, you could explain that you do this for 20 mins because the body starts to regulate the temperature after 15 min (if I remember right). You could also show what kind of thermometer to use and how to set it up (because even I’m still not totally sure how people are doing this).

Do this for all the relevant steps. Because if not.. How many times do you want to answer ‘hey guys what US device should I use’? Just put it in the faq section with the basic info like:
1-3 Mhz because reasons
X w/cm2 because reasons
5:1 ratio because reasons
X cm2 size because reasons
Examples of US devices matching the aforementioned criteria are x, y and z.

2) And then the second thread would be this one. Here you could actually discuss stuff and if people asked the same question for the 20th time, you could just point them to the faq thread.

Thanks for the links, this must have taken ages to find. ^^ It seems the basic design does make a lot of sense.

What is this, what does it do? I’ve tried googling for US phantom and couldn’t quite make sense of it.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well.

I mean.. Obviously. By now I’ve read enough to have an idea on how to proceed, so neither you nor me need a tutorial. I’m just pointing out that atm the information is presented in a very confusing and difficult to find manner. Igigi linked to a post #352 lol. #352!

Yeah this makes sense. It just seems a bit cumbersome to have your penis turned upside down, so I was looking for solutions.

Hmm I can see that yeah.

Are these devices you are using same specwise as they use in ED cure therapy? They have seen improvements in EQ in only few (6) 20 min threathments.

I will dig deeper into this and will maybe try it for example fulcrum hanging with vacuum hanger. Heating topside of penis. Or with extender.
This is only if those 1/3 MHz +2W/cm2 devices for few hundred dollars are good to go. I can’t invest +3000 dollars.

Now I’ve only used rise rock and electric heating pad. Never tried IR lamp. It would go deeper tha pad heat but I want to read more is IR dangerous to tissues.

The phantom is what you call a pad. It ensures that the sound waves do not reflect off the skin and thus a standing wave can be created. This is actually explained in the linked posts. And no, I found it quickly because I remembered where it said what info. At least for some things I still remember.

I also don’t work OTL and was looking for a durable solution for the pad. The properties of the silicone are perfectly suited. If you are interested in the theory on this, you can find it here:
Rocco25 - Gaining volume with Kyrpa

I use a vac hanger. My setup is in the following order from the top:

- IR (100 W at a distance of approx. 20 … 25 cm)
- Silicone phantom (pad)
- US gel
- penis
- US gel
- Transducer (1 MHz, 1,6 W/cm^2, applied ventrally)

Between pad and penis I measured the temperature and I reach temperatures above 40 °C quite fast.

Have you guys noticed improved EQ from ultrasound?

Interesting and I think it makes a lot of sense to invest some time and money into coming up with a good setup. I’ll definitely come back and check out this post again once (if) I start the US routine. Vielen Dank!

You’re welcome!
I don’t know why you write “if”. My tip: Just do it!

I’ll contact all my local shops and see what they can do. I’ve emailed and received responses from the few ultrasound technicians (nationally there is only a handful) and they bluntly stated that the India machines are not worth repairing but did not specifically respond to my question about merely bench testing them where no repair is explicitly required. My country is quite small, niche business/services are often rare if not non-existent, any assistance in this endeavor would be appreciated and add significantly to the collective knowledge. The US PRO 2000 2nd Edition is hands down the best and most affordable low-end US, however machines capable of greater than 2 W/cm2 (alongside the required ERA >=4cm^2, 100% Duty Cycle (continuous), 1 + 3 MHz, BNR <=5:1) are prohibitively expensive for many, except for these Indian/Chinese machines.. Thus the utility in finding out if any are legitimate.

I contacted the local hospitals but none were able to offer any such services. I suppose I could try smaller clinics, at least if I have no luck with bench testing at local electronics stores.

I do not have an indian/chinese machine. I’m waiting on a more professional device to arrive. So my efforts might be redirected, again I’d like to encourage others, especially those who already have one of these cheaper machines, to go find out if they truly got their monies worth.

Apologies for the maybe-seemingly trivial question, but would this sort of thermometer, placed between shaft and leg (or other object), work?
For those who can’t access the picture: BG-HH1C Inkbird Digital Food Thermometer

Also, I’ve only done a cursory search, but it is unclear to me what is the consensus on using an infrared thermometer? I would presume they’re ineffective, at least when it comes to comparing them to urethral temp. Measurements, due to IR light penetrating not much deeper than 3mm - though I’m stating that from memory and after googling it on scholar, can only find conflicting results, but not by more than a few millimeters in most cases.

I tried an Indian machine. It had enough power initially, but the BNR was not as advertised. There were lots of sharp peaks that would hurt even at low power. I tested it in cooking oil and could visually see the hot spots. There was a dangerous peak right in the middle.

After about 10 uses, it stopped working altogether. No response from the manufacturer. I decided it wasn’t worth fixing given the very poor profile.