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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

I can get 2. The price considering the benefit is very fair. And I can also order gel by the gallons LOL

The theory behind using 2 at the same time was to heat the complete shaft at the same time correct? One transducer heating half of it and the other heating up the other half.

OK, you guys have convinced me to go on ebay and purchase the US Pro 2000. I’m going to use it for my tennis elbow if anyone asks. Thanks Kyrpa for all the info and diligent research.

Originally Posted by igigi
I can get 2. The price considering the benefit is very fair. And I can also order gel by the gallons LOL

The theory behind using 2 at the same time was to heat the complete shaft at the same time correct? One transducer heating half of it and the other heating up the other half.

Not a theory


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Not a theory

LOL I stand corrected. I got used all these years to call all these “ideas” a “theory”
So the protocol to follow with 2 transducers is to use one on each half of the shaft at the same time correct? I have been picturing that in my mind, and I believe I have the setup created in my mind as far as tension. As I explained before I have a very reliable old vacuum hardware that only covers 1/4-1/2” behind the glans and I will rest my penis over the leg when using the US.

Originally Posted by igigi
LOL I stand corrected. I got used all these years to call all these “ideas” a “theory”
So the protocol to follow with 2 transducers is to use one on each half of the shaft at the same time correct? I have been picturing that in my mind, and I believe I have the setup created in my mind as far as tension. As I explained before I have a very reliable old vacuum hardware that only covers 1/4-1/2” behind the glans and I will rest my penis over the leg when using the US.

Yes, dividing the shaft in two regions. I can make some illustrations how the dual treatment can be produced really effeiciently and safely.
For elevating the temperature in accelerated fashion the transducers can be used parallel on the same portion as well. Just keeping them separated not colliding the beams by putting the transducers on the opposite sides or separating them by large degree angles. I have found really efficient and tolerated weay on getting the temperature up and maintaining it the whole session duration.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Is heat the key?

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
These things take some time to sink in. Not everyone has the ability, opportunity, discipline or courage to start this line of programs. There is a party that does not believe PE work in general, then there is a group believing that conventional PE works for everyone. Both are wrong.
Then there is a non-gainers group never tried any heating method despite multiple examples of it making the difference.

Some may be scared about the possible risks involved with US, but if anyone ever read the warnings and precautions for use listings of their prescribted or over-the- counter medicine, no one would ever consume any aspirin or NSAID’s for example. Coming back to this method, considering the risk profile of this we may actually be extensively on the safer side, we just don´t know because there is not millions of user base on heating their dick programs.

Just like seniti said the machinery available at affordable price ranging from crap to decent.
If someone pondering the purchase of some cheap unit, they should at least ask the seller the ERA and BNR of the machine. These figures say a lot of the quality and the realistic performance.
If they say they have a 3w/ cm^2 intensity but the ERA is really small and the BNR is large the machine is not so efficient after all. Another thing is if the figures are what they claim at all with some of these most affordable ones.
If the seller is not able to give these figures at all, you may not bother to purchase the machine.

I don´t know if Manko ever comes back, I surely hope so. Longerstretch is going fine job with his log. There are few guys like DocJ , whom have reported on my log, others as well getting results.
Of course there are some who have not been able yet to duplicate the success others have achieved such as Mercuryarms.
Until there are 20 to 30 users in similar program we cannot say what is the rate of non- responders.

Despite the “scientific” approach the pioneering users have taken, this can be done in a more user friendly manner once there is enough experience and data.

For the guys coming up with the ideas, I highly appreciate everyone who has the ability to actually make and test any of their inventions in practice.
If the ideas are highly theoretical and not able to be tried by any practice achievable then not so much.

Anyone being or getting familiar with the ultrasound , having any observations or ideas are very welcomed to share their thoughts.

I’ve been doing an ads and manual exercise for about a month and a half now and I’ve only noticed very little if any gains. But… I have not been heating, I’ve been just taking a shower and then doing p.e. when I get out. Is heat the key to making gains??
Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by Wtjracer
I’ve been doing an ADS and manual exercise for about a month and a half now and I’ve only noticed very little if any gains. But.. I have not been heating, I’ve been just taking a shower and then doing p.e. When I get out. Is heat the key to making gains??
Thanks in advance

Probably Kyrpa will have a better input at this, but as a general rule if you’re a beginner, you should follow a disciplined regular known protocol for a consistent amount of time in order to assess your gains and to condition your tissues to exercise.

Heat is pretty much for those who have exhausted all possible ways to grow, and also for some who are predetermined to have a hard time with the tunica and septum. But you can’t just do a few exercises here and there for a month and determine if you can gain or not.

Get involved in the forums, follow the existent proven protocols, and as time go by you will be able to know your situation.

Originally Posted by igigi
Probably Kyrpa will have a better input at this, but as a general rule if you’re a beginner, you should follow a disciplined regular known protocol for a consistent amount of time in order to assess your gains and to condition your tissues to exercise.

Heat is pretty much for those who have exhausted all possible ways to grow, and also for some who are predetermined to have a hard time with the tunica and septum. But you can’t just do a few exercises here and there for a month and determine if you can gain or not.

Get involved in the forums, follow the existent proven protocols, and as time go by you will be able to know your situation.


I appreciate the feedback. But given kyrpa’s success in this thread and his “gain volume” thread, it seems like the US played a big roll in it. And if that is the case, I would like to incorporate that heat therapy in a routine, I’ve also looked at shockwave as well as it helps with angiogenesis of new vessels and I would think that growing new vessels would help greatly in pe of any form. Thanks

Originally Posted by igigi
Probably Kyrpa will have a better input at this, but as a general rule if you’re a beginner, you should follow a disciplined regular known protocol for a consistent amount of time in order to assess your gains and to condition your tissues to exercise.

Heat is pretty much for those who have exhausted all possible ways to grow, and also for some who are predetermined to have a hard time with the tunica and septum. But you can’t just do a few exercises here and there for a month and determine if you can gain or not.

Get involved in the forums, follow the existent proven protocols, and as time go by you will be able to know your situation.


And by “disciplined regular known protocol” you are referring to the newbie routine, correct?

Originally Posted by Wtjracer
And by “disciplined regular known protocol” you are referring to the newbie routine, correct?

Correct. The newbie routine and its variations.
If you are interested in Kyrpa’s achievements and protocols, read his thread as well as this thread. All the answers are there. I have been reading everything preparing to incorporate this therapy in my routine too.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Yes, dividing the shaft in two regions. I can make some illustrations how the dual treatment can be produced really effeiciently and safely.
For elevating the temperature in accelerated fashion the transducers can be used parallel on the same portion as well. Just keeping them separated not colliding the beams by putting the transducers on the opposite sides or separating them by large degree angles. I have found really efficient and tolerated weay on getting the temperature up and maintaining it the whole session duration.

I was thinking, “what happens when you cross two transducer wave pathways through tissue with overlapping penetration depth?”

2x cavitation diameter size? Unexpected shear stresses? Cancellation of the waves? Nothing?


Starting: 7"bplx5.2" 2017 (shrunk from disuse)(originally 8"bplx4.5", gained to 9"bplx6")

Current: 9.0"bplx6.125" 2020

Goal: 11.5"bplx7" 2021.

Originally Posted by igigi
Correct. The newbie routine and its variations.
If you are interested in Kyrpa’s achievements and protocols, read his thread as well as this thread. All the answers are there. I have been reading everything preparing to incorporate this therapy in my routine too.

Awesome, again thanks for the input and solid advice. My main problem is sticking to a certain routine rather than jumping from one thing to another and expecting results. But, if I get the US pro 2000 like y’all have been discussing, I believe I will stick with a heating session with and extended newbie routine because I believe I’m past the point of getting my tissues ready for pe. Or I might just start over, with the added variation of the US heat. I’ll have to make a thread to keep me on track as well.

Originally Posted by Wtjracer
I’ve been doing an ads and manual exercise for about a month and a half now and I’ve only noticed very little if any gains. But… I have not been heating, I’ve been just taking a shower and then doing p.e. when I get out. Is heat the key to making gains??
Thanks in advance

Hello,

I genuinely believe that one month is a short time time for finding the way to gain size.

Heat in general has been the key element for many as you can easily find out searching these forums.

Elasticity improves staring at the temperature of + 37 °C. The resting temperature of your penile core is + 34.5 to +35.5 °C.
This will cause improvements in flexibility of the tissue and therefor allowing more efficient exercises.

Thermal transition changing visco-elastic properties of the collagenous tissue starts at +40 °C.
This will allow much greater elongation of the tissue by the exercise and is providing permanent gains.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hello,

I genuinely believe that one month is a short time time for finding the way to gain size.

Heat in general has been the key element for many as you can easily find out searching these forums.

Elasticity improves staring at the temperature of + 37 °C. The resting temperature of your penile core is + 34.5 to +35.5 °C.
This will cause improvements in flexibility of the tissue and therefor allowing more efficient exercises.

Thermal transition changing visco-elastic properties of the collagenous tissue starts at +40 °C.
This will allow much greater elongation of the tissue by the exercise and is providing permanent gains.

Thank you! You should do a tutorial thread or video on the proper usage of US to heat the tissues to the desired temperature.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hello,

I genuinely believe that one month is a short time time for finding the way to gain size.

Heat in general has been the key element for many as you can easily find out searching these forums.

Elasticity improves staring at the temperature of + 37 °C. The resting temperature of your penile core is + 34.5 to +35.5 °C.
This will cause improvements in flexibility of the tissue and therefor allowing more efficient exercises.

Thermal transition changing visco-elastic properties of the collagenous tissue starts at +40 °C.
This will allow much greater elongation of the tissue by the exercise and is providing permanent gains.

Also, the ads kit and sleeves that I have, when you do the heat using US, you use it while in a stretched state correct? And this is safe for 3 days repeated max, and then break for Atleast 2? Sorry for the questions, I’m making up a whole new routine based from this new heat therapy.

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