Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

I didn’t take that photo, I think it came from one of my company providers, it could be the same.

Depending on pad emitting power, I wouldn’t exceed 30 continuative minutes (meaning that if you really want, you can use it again for another 30 min after 1 hour or so, with that time to cool off just to make sure there’s no temperature increase above that threshold we discussed).
I prefer wearing the pad at the beginning, to make sure that the extender is on right when (and after) the IR effect on cells is at maximum.

I’ve been using the 660nm + 850nm setting on my pad, but a few days ago I’ve switched to just using the 850nm setting, and letting it get hot using that. We will see. I thought you said that heat goes well with NIR and that’s why its commonly paired with the 660nm light? Please do explain further.

You didn’t say this before I had posted, So I assume you are referring to me as I was the only one who mentioned how long I’m irradiated for. So tell me is 1 hour too long? Or 30 mins once in morning and 30 mins at night too long? You didn’t answer my questions about the lamp either. So ill ask it again as I’m sure others would like to know since this topic is not as straight forward as id like it to be.

Should we be irradiating 30 total for the whole body, or is it just 30 minutes per site?
Is using a NIR lamp in conjunction with a NIR pad for 30 minutes too much irradiation?

Whattt, just read this and edited this post. So you’re saying that 1 hour after irradiation we can irradiate again for another 30 minutes? Could just be me but I feel as though there are some contradictory statements.

I did notice this and think it was suspicious, but couldn’t be bothered posting about it. I’m not sure why Solvay has to be so hush hush about what his job using NIR light actually is.

Non-disclosure agreements are very common for people working in technical fields. Some companies have further restrictions.

If you go back in this thread, you can see that using NIR to heat up above 40/41 C degrees basically nullify the infrared effect on metabolism and growth, entering into a completely different behavior - where growth can only happen due to heat damaging collagen.

That said, I wasn’t referring specifically to you when I mentioned overdoing: I read somewhere else on the forum a couple users reporting their first month or two with NIR and, even if I don’t remember how much, it seemed to me they really were overdoing it.

I said many times already that going over 30 continuative minutes with a NIR pad is probably too much: the energy emitted slowly raises the internal temperature and it reaches that 41C threshold I would personally avoid.
You’re using a NIR pad + a IR lamp (which, I don’t remember if you shared the specifics of it, probably emits WAY more than the pad). Moreover, the lamp focuses the emitted energy on a specific area. So yes, I think you might be overdoing it, and the fact your skin gets hot while doing it kinda proves it.
Once again, IT SHOULD NOT GET HOT.

So if you irradiate 30 minutes and then wait for an hour, to let the temperature go back to normal, yes, you could irradiate again. But it’s not going to be beneficial - metabolism has obvious limits, you can’t keep pumping it hoping to multiply the effect.
To survive you need to drink a certain amount of water every day, if you drink twice that nothing (too) bad will happen, if you drink 10 times that you might die. It’s not like you can drink the entire water for a month in a day and then nothing for the following 29.

I don’t really care if people think I’m “suspicious”, especially considering that I came here inviting others to try on their own, reporting scientific data to back up what otherwise would have been just a personal opinion.
Please don’t believe me: form your own opinion.
Thanks to my job I think I’ve just been (one of) the first guys experimenting with NIR on PE. I’m not on a mission to make people believe me for whatever reason.
I just hope others will soon get the same results I had.

[btw, I would have been a different kind of stupid to post a picture everyone can find on internet pretending it’s my own, lol!]

What are your thoughts on RF therapy for ED? There’s a company in Israel selling it. 1mhz to heat the collagen they claim rejuvenates the tissues and improves erectile function.

I know nothing about it. I tend to believe tho that collagen damage hardly is the only reason of ED, so I’m kind of skeptical a therapy focusing over collagen can really solve ED.

I forgot to answer these:

I’ve never seen a pad emitting in the 1060nm wavelength, nor I would recommend it. There seems to be something strange even for the other wavelength: in the 850nm you shouldn’t see red light (that’s 660nm, which is visible red).

In general I’d recommend using the pad with no red light or with both visible and not visible emission. Using only the red visible light basically irradiate the outer layers of your skin, and that’s not what you should be looking after.

That’s interesting: it’s probably due to increased blood circulation and skin cells accelerated renewal, typical effects of NIR.
I have no experience with discoloration so I can hardly notice or comment about it.

Solvay i will point out that after a week and a bit of using both the 660nm and 850nm setting on my pad. My penis became noticeably more smooth and shrunken. I was freaking out searching for a possible reason and was thinking it had to do with DMSO that i was applying. But i came to the conclusion in the end that it could have been the heating pad, i remembered it can increase collagen and promote skin healing and growth. That would explain why some part of my discoloration went away and my penis became whiter and the skin looked thin and fresher looking.. Im not sure why the decrease in flaccid size? I can only think that the increased elasticity of the skin was pulling it together more, making it more compact.

What do you think of this?

Hey Solvay!
You were kind enough to answer in my log.
Since you probably don’t monitor it too often, I just want to inform you I provided the inquired information:
CBateman - Cbateman’s journey to perfection

Maybe this data point helps a bit to get closer to the truth of what works and what does not.
I have to say though that I am a hard gainer and my results could be partly explained by genetics.

All the best
CB

I’m rather sure it’s a temporary effect and I can’t imagine any reason why it should. As a matter of fact, I got important flaccid gains, which actually I’d expect even just for extending with or without NIR. Since NIR causes cell growth and heat, there’s nothing to justify a shrinkage.

I answered now in your thread.
Unfortunately, I do believe your approach is way more aggressive than mine, too different to really compare NIR results.
My gains came from wearing an extender, probably 1.5kg tension for many hours, while you’re hanging up to 4.2kg for much shorter times. I’m sorry, I really don’t know how NIR therapy could interact with that, but I have a feeling that pure heat could be more effective for you.