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Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

I enjoy getting rid of the discoloration, but the constant peeling is a turnoff.

Also, I’m still confused. Is 660 with the red lights, or the 850 without the lights more effective? I’ve been sticking with the 660 with the lights. And liking it.


Start 8/15/18-BPEL-6.75” MEG-4.625”

2/17/20-BPEL-7.125” MEG-5”

Goal- 8”x5.5”

660nm IS the red light, at the end of the visible spectrum. This warms up the outer layer but doesn’t get much deeper than the skin.
850nm is the proper NIR: it doesn’t generate the same amount of heat as 660nm, since it interacts much less with water, but its energy gets a lot deeper and is the one responsible of metabolic effects.

If you have to choose among them, use 850nm. If you can, use both.

Ok, thank you. I’ll do a little of both.


Start 8/15/18-BPEL-6.75” MEG-4.625”

2/17/20-BPEL-7.125” MEG-5”

Goal- 8”x5.5”

The irradiance of above is good but it’s 50/50 660nm and 850nm. Should be more 850nm, right? As 660nm doesn’t do that much.

Did anyone find a mostly 850nm application or way?

Originally Posted by BDAgenda
The irradiance of above is good but it’s 50/50 660nm and 850nm. Should be more 850nm, right? As 660nm doesn’t do that much.

Did anyone find a mostly 850nm application or way?

It includes both 660nm and 850nm, and no it shouldn’t be above 850nm.


Journey for da pipe!

He meant the emitting power should be more focused over 850nm rather than 660nm. Many pads have led delivering two thirds of the emitted power in the 850nm wavelength and only one third in 660nm.

Originally Posted by Solvay1927

He meant the emitting power should be more focused over 850nm rather than 660nm. Many pads have led delivering two thirds of the emitted power in the 850nm wavelength and only one third in 660nm.

Ah. In that case the one I linked seems to work strongly with 850nm (there’s an option to select just 850nm).


Journey for da pipe!

Solvay, I’ve been mulling over my technique for pumping with my NIR pad. In your thesis, you mention that cellular division and growth are triggered by two things: the specific 660 / 850 wavelengths and reaching a temperature above 40c.

My question is, are there any ways to know if you successfully triggered the cellular growth?

It sounds like there is a “sweet spot” where the penis is sufficiently irradiated. Not enough and the tissue won’t reach 40c. But it also sounds like too much is not beneficial either.

So can we refine some guidelines or find some indicators to know if we triggered the cellular growth phase?

Reaching a temperature above 40C will nullify the effect of NIR on metabolism. You will get growth the usual way, as heat always helped PE, but not infrared-induced cellular growth.

Originally Posted by Solvay1927
Reaching a temperature above 40C will nullify the effect of NIR on metabolism. You will get growth the usual way, as heat always helped PE, but not infrared-induced cellular growth.

Would you elaborate on this. Where exactly you base the claim. In which studies precisely you refer when picking up such a temperature?


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

Would you elaborate on this. Where exactly you base the claim. In which studies precisely you refer when picking up such a temperature?

Would also like to know.


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

Any luck with pads that have only 850nm?

Does anyone have any idea on a inexpensive or expensive pad that’s worth buying?

Originally Posted by lilimp47

Does anyone have any idea on a inexpensive or expensive pad that’s worth buying?

No brand names here, only stuff from aliexpress. Specifications are at the beginning of the thread.


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

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