Guilty Spark's Atypical Log

My feelings on tonight are mixed. This morning I absolutely thought I would be in for another disappointment tonight. I was hot and sweating when I got up, I felt a little sick after eating my breakfast and drinking my coffee, and I thought there was a residual feeling of weakness in my arms and legs. Tonight though I really don’t know. I got home, took a shower, and went right to stretching. My penis felt pretty good while I was handling it, and thoughts of sex seem to be exciting me again. Going to make some dinner here in a little bit, and then a few hours from now, I’ll be attempting the jelq portion of my workout.

Fucking hell, I am honestly more nervous right now about the prospect of attempting a jelq session than I am before having sex. The performance anxiety is real, except the only person I’m performing for is myself!!!

So you guys know how a lot of men have performance anxiety in bed? Well it seems I have that for PE of all things!

About two weeks ago, I began having a problem where I could not finish a jelq session without climaxing. I came up with all kinds of crazy theories why, but ultimately I think it’s because I had an infected tooth, and the infection was spreading to the rest of my body. I was feeling pretty lousy and run down for a good long time. This in turn seemed to affect both sexual desire and function.

Well I got the tooth out, and I’ve been steadily feeling better. Tonight I was feeling normal as far as I could tell. I was hoping that this week, I could go back to doing normal PE. Nope. No joke, before I attempted to do PE, I was experiencing more anxiety than I do before sex!!! It felt good using the lube to try and get hard, but it just wasn’t responding, and then when it finally did begin to get hard, I was already close to the edge. Got to 160 jelqs and then lost control of it. There’s enough time before I absolutely have to go to bed that I can wait a little while for the recovery period to pass, and then finish out the session. I’m going to have to begin doing my PE sessions earlier in the day to account for this new variable. Couldn’t keep control? No problem! There’s time still. Just wait and then finish out the session! This is absolutely unbelievable, and a really unfortunate occurrence. I hope none of you guys ever have to experience this BS!

Also, this would count as a split session I guess, and it seems the consensus is that those are to be avoided. What if there is only an hour and a half to two hours between them?

I’ve read about your issue in some of your other threads. There’s a few.

It sounds overworked and ultra-sensitive because of it. I’d let it “completely” rest, allowing for the tissues and nerves to heal, if I was dealing with that. Weeks or months if I had to. It ain’t in your head, your dick is pissed and trying to talk to you. It’s saying “if I blow the load, he’ll quit”.

Now that my sensible and safe opinion is out of the way. Out on this lonely limb - not good advice. I wouldn’t, nor should you.

Salonpas. Lidocaine 4% at Walmart. Maybe $6. Let that soak in for about 20 minutes, wash it off, lube up, and jelq away, if you can get it up at all afterwards. You literally won’t feel a damned thing.

You think it’s overwork? I mean, I guess it could be. I hate taking time off because that means no progress, but I guess it couldn’t hurt to try a week. I keep thinking though that I also felt sick while all of this was happening as well.

Maybe when you jelq, it makes your dick feel too good. Jelqing, for me, is not pleasurable. It just feels like pulling. I could do it for an hour and not explode. Try varying your technique.

This has overworked written all over it. You completed a session after having two days off. Back to back days, and you can’t. If that’s not enough of an answer, I don’t know what is. Switch it up if you have to. Stretches on one day, manuals on another. 1 on, 1 off.

It snuck up on ya. Your progress log had hints of it, and then it fully manifested itself. Go back and read it. Ease up a bit. This isn’t a race, your not losing progress, or losing time, your gaining efficiency by finding your limit and what too much for you is. That is as fast as you can go.

Thanks for the advice guys. Glad you were able to reply before that annoying moderator merged my thread, AGAIN, even though I was legitimately trying to talk to the forum members this time. I always thought overwork meant that the penis just doesn’t respond at all. Never thought it could manifest as hyper sensitivity.

I’d have read it either way. Don’t get annoyed. It’s better having it all in one spot. Anybody that reads your log in the future would have missed all of that, and you don’t to have to search to go back and read up. Sometimes, that can help in identifying a trend, especially with how meticulous your posts are.

It could mean anything. Physiological indicators are all we have to go by. Your increased sensitivity is a product of something you’re doing and if you’re doing it too much, it’s just going to get more sensitive.

Do you masturbate much or use porn to get an erection? In years past, early-mid 20’s I used to masturbate allot. 5+ times a day. It got to the point where I could get hard and off in under 2 minutes. My dick and my brain learned that, and it even affected my sex life. Like it was always hyper aware of every little touch, because I was always flogging it. If you don’t masturbate much, you’re definitely flogging it with your jelqs and it could be the same effect.

Rest up. Clear your mind. Don’t focus on anything. PE and pleasure should be separated. Teach it the difference between work and play.

I only use porn when I masturbate. When I do PE it’s all mental. Before I started PE again, I used to masturbate once in three days, or even more. When I started PE again I cut it down to once a week. Either masturbation or sex, depending on if I was seeing my FWB that week. My reasoning was that the longer I went without a climax, the more easily I could get and stay hard for PE, and I needed that extra responsiveness, because the PE caused me to be less sensitive and responsive. That’s why the idea that this could be over work is baffling to me. It’s because over work always meant the complete opposite.

Even though people in the forum are saying over work, and I’m pondering if it could be because of my recent infection, I’m also wondering if it could be that the L-Arginine I’m taking is finally having its full effect? Increased blood flow means increased sensitivity right?

Time for yet ANOTHER theory. Well, two actually, but before that, I want to address what some people have been suggesting my problem is, that being overwork. While I am not entirely dismissing that possibility, I do not believe it to be the case. Why? Precedent. When it comes to PE, I am no newbie. I have done PE in the past, and I have also suffered overwork in the past. Overwork for me has ALWAYS manifested as a loss of sensitivity, and a loss of function. Example, not feeling good when stimulated, and not able to get hard, even if I wanted to. These things I am experiencing, hypersensitivity and climaxing more easily as a result, are the exact opposite of what I have experienced in the past. Actually when I can stay hard for jelqing, my EQ is CRAZY good.

Theory 1: So, why do I now have high sensitivity and great EQ? I’ve been trying to answer that question. At first I thought that the symptoms of my infection were just throwing everything in my body off. Since I now feel essentially back to normal and am having the same problems, I think it was just coincidence. Weeks ago, I began taking L-Arginine for the sexual benefits it is said to provide. I know it can take over a month or so to kick in. Well I have now been taking it long enough that I might expect to see something. More sensitive. Better EQ. My semen is also a lot whiter. If anything, many men would consider what I am experiencing a good thing. So what do I do now? Assuming I am right, I just need to adapt. I need to learn what kind of stimulus and how much will keep me hard without sending me over the edge.

Theory 2: I did a session tonight. I nearly lost control a few times, but overall it was much easier to manage. Why is that I wonder? Well, when I first started having issues, I failed a session one night, and then went back later and finished it. I shower before PE so I can have a better grip when stretching. Going back a few hours later, I noticed that my grip seemed to slide over my shaft more easily due to there being time for sweat and oils to build back up again. I decided to try something. I would shower when I got home, do my stretching, then do my jelqing a few hours later. It was during this time period when I began noticing it was difficult to get hard, and I often couldn’t get hard until I was already close to the edge. Here’s my theory; the preliminary stretching was causing just enough fatigue that when I tried to get hard for PE, my penis didn’t want to listen. You know how when you do something physically exhausting, you feel it in the moment, but then later when you are resting, moving seems difficult, and any physical exertion is that much worse? It’s kind of like that. Tonight I did stretching and went straight into jelqing, not giving my penis any time at all to get tired. I was able to get hard fairly easily, and it wasn’t until late into my session that I had to be careful about climax.

So in addition to relearning what kind of stimulation and how much, I will also be doing stretching and jelqing in one session. I’ll just deal with the increased friction from jelqing. I will also be having an orgasm every two days or so since it seems easier to maintain control if I orgasmed recently.

This makes perfect sense. Waiting to jelq hours later maybe gave time for fatigue to set in, and you had to be that much harder on it to get erect, making climax that much easier.

Taking the time to step back and look at things is a good thing. Efficiency gained. I know you’ll already have showered, but why not use a lubricant? Wet jelqs always seemed more effective and definitely easier on the hands and scrotal skin, to me. I hold my scrotum back while jelqing, it tends to creep up my shaft if I don’t, giving me a hairy shaft and forward hanging balls.

Coconut oil, soy, cottonseed, and safflower oils all work well, readily available, wipe off, and don’t leave any odor. Especially if you shower daily. Olive oil can start smelling quite quickly. Of course, you could always just drape yourself over the sink and rinse in the basin if you really want it off your skin. I’ve done that a time or two.

I’m not sure about the L-Arginine side effects or dosing. I’m not versed in any PE type supplements. I know some of what guys stack for PE is present in daily supplements I do take, but I take those for general health like Centrum daily vitamin types. No one thing specifically for PE, and none of them contain L-Arginine. Can’t help with that one.

Keep on keeping on! I hope things continue to get better for you.

Hi there, and thanks for the reply. What I meant is that if I shower and go straight into PE, the usual sweat and oils that would be there are gone, and so it doesn’t seem to matter how much lube I use. There always seems to be a bit more friction. If that is what is happening, it’s a small price to pay for some of these difficulties to go away. I do use lube. Albolene actually. Found it recommended on this site. Works insanely well.

At this point, it seems like every other session for me fails. Tonight I made it to 150 jelqs before I lost control.

I have noticed something. Even if I can now easily get hard without feeling like I’m going to climax, staying hard seems to be getting difficult. I’m still not totally convinced that it’s overwork, but maybe it would actually be good for me to take a week off. This is week number three of month four. I have not yet had a single week for this month where I got all four of my jelq sessions in. I will attempt to finish out this week with four jelq sessions to end on a good note, then I will take a week off. I guess I could use a break. My life has pretty much revolved around PE for months now.