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Penis Size - A realistic view

Originally Posted by kubchaser
It is quite true that most straight men base off their size by looking at porn. The locker room comparison is a hit and miss as showers love to show more than growers do. And flaccid size is not the best indicator of a true erection size (although there is a slight correlation). So a typical straight male would think that 7” is not as big as it really is. When in fact, 7” is above-average, meaning a guy with 7” is bigger than at least 60% of all males (if not an even greater number).

Then we have gays and girls who have personally experienced with other males. What I find interesting is that their view is biased as to what they are seeking after. If you ask a size queen, he or she is going to tell you that there are BIG ONES out there. Their reality is somewhat distorted as that’s what they want to go after. And then there are the group where eagles fly with eagles. A typical hung gay male may tend to go after another hung male; even though there are definitely exceptions as to opposite attraction, it is quite common to see gay personal ads of hung guys going after another hung guy.

To me, the reality of true average is very hard to determine. A range of average would be a better description. But even then, I find an average is best described with reference to ethnicity/race. For example, if I were to randomly pick 100 Caucasian males from Britain (just picking any places really), chances are the average would be around 5.5-6.5”. However, there may be more variances within this group—ie. out of 100 Caucasian males, 10 of them are 8”+ and 10 of them are under 4.5”. The range can differ 3-4” apart.

By the same token, if I were to pick 100 Chinese (be very specific here) males, their average penis is likely to range around 4.5-6” or less. Again, there are some Chinese males that are 7”+ and there are also some that are under 4”. The range can easily be 3”+.

However, if I were to compare Caucasians with Chinese Asians, the difference in the averages would be probably 1/2 - 1” (my best guess based on my personal experiences).

Then there is perceptual differences. A typical Chinese Asian male may be around 5’6 - 5’8, so a 5.5” penis may appear to be like 6”+ on him. Whereas a typical Caucasian may be around 5’8-5’10 in height, so the same 5.5” all of sudden appears to be small.

Anyway, I hope I have made my point.


You throw around 8+ like it’s 10% of the population, and 7+ is only 60%. Are you going by BP?


Then (2007) 7"bpel x 5".5

Now (9/2009) 7".5 bpel x 5".75 (currently 5.6) I guess I lost a wee bit

Now 9/2011 7.75 bpel x 5 5/8

Originally Posted by bassman70
You throw around 8+ like it’s 10% of the population, and 7+ is only 60%. Are you going by BP?

I hope so.. LOL It was just my educated guess as a true percentage number is so hard to come by.


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Originally Posted by demonaitor
I am 16 years old and my penis is only 5” will it grow any more? I am worried

Some doctors say the age penis stop growing is 16 so I guess no I won’t get any bigger only if you do PE


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Originally Posted by northmiamitop
I think I might have mentioned it before, but it occurred to me again last night. I was looking at fleshjack.com, the gay store for fleshlight. Basically the same stuff, minus the vagina orifice. Just like they have fleshlight girls, they have fleshjack boys. The each have a mouth and ass sleeve, and a dildo, all made by molding the models anatomy.

Keep in mind, these are gay porn stars. You would expect them all to be hung like horses, but most of them are in a range a lot of TPers would call “not that big.” Not small, for sure, even bigger than average. But of the ones I noticed, nothing like 8x6. (The range (insertable) looked to be from 6 to 7.) These are guys who make a living with their dicks, if 7x5.5 is big enough to make it in porn, it’s big enough to call big.

Excellent post.. I actually went to that site after reading this because I was curious. And I will be damned. I’ve ran across video’s of brent everett on xtube and figured he was easily 8”, yet right there on the specs of the dildo it says 7” insertable. I’m amazed, not one is above 7”, and most are below 6.5. All those guys look way bigger than the stats. Certainly makes me feel better about my size. One thing to notice about all those guys though, all except 1 I believe are over 5” girth.

Hi all, I’m new (this is my first post!)

I’ve got a just under average size cock (haven’t measured it in a while, going to very soon as I plan to start doing PE NOW! I’ve already done 150 wet jelqs and I feel motivated!) of ~5”.

I go through stages of being insecure and then thinking “who cares, actual penetration is only a small part of sex and I’m good at knowing how to make a girl hot using other parts of my body”.

I don’t particularly want to have an 8” cock, because I’ve heard girls say that big dicks hurt them and they don’t actually fuck them. I’m going for between 6-7”.

Just thought I’d drop my first pearl of wisdom by saying that there are plenty of alternatives you can use to get the opposite sex to go wild. For instance, a gentle teasing massage on the back of the neck and around the ears will surprise you and make her hotter than that roast chicken you’re cooking in the oven right now!

Anyway, not really sure if I posted this in the right place, I just completely agree with the post by stuzilla.

Hopefully I’ll be able to report back on my progress in a couple of months with some positive results.

Peace out, or as us Brits say: “I hope you have a rather spiffing day”

Originally Posted by UKlad
Just thought I’d drop my first pearl of wisdom by saying that there are plenty of alternatives you can use to get the opposite sex to go wild. For instance, a gentle teasing massage on the back of the neck and around the ears will surprise you and make her hotter than that roast chicken you’re cooking in the oven right now!

UKlad, I think that you make a very good point. Too many men think that if they have a big cock, that that is all they need to satify a woman. I think that a passionate kiss can be just as powerful. Women love romance and a great kiss can be the key to unlock all their desires.

I met a girl who made love to me with just her kiss. We were too young to go beyond that. After her I never met a woman who could kiss like that, and for that long, hours. They either cannot do it, just don’t like it, or it is too sexual and they want to move on to the next thing.

This kiss is really no secret … it is just a very deep French kiss but requires one more thing… the receiver needs to gently suck the givers tongue… and sometimes more than just a little. The giver needs to relax and trust that the receiver will not pull too hard. This is a “lovers” kiss and she will get the message!

I try this occassionally with my wife. She will do it, but she almost immediately wants intercourse preceeded by oral. I think that this kiss is too sexually stimulating for her. So we never get to do really heavy petting. I have tried to withhold sex and stay with the kiss but she basicly attacks me.

Thanks for making me remember a pearl from my past.

The next time you kiss, go deep, then see if she will go deep on you. Don’t give up too quickly. It takes a little time for her to figure out what you want her to do. If she goes deep on you then gently suck her tongue and try to alternate.

It gives new meaning to oral sex. Use with caution.

sheLovesIt

Hi everyone,

After reading this thread and other posts here in TP I feel a little bit better with my actual size, thought I wasn’t thicker enough but I realize that I’m okay=) maybe a little bit above average, I think, and my length isn’t that bad either, dead average I think.

But as all the guys in this forum I want to have a bigger penis, not too much just a little bit.

(Starting today with PE): NBPEL: 5.8” BPEL: 6.9” EG: 5.5”
GOAL: NBPEL: 6.7” NBPEL: 7.8” EG: 6”

I do not care about ‘average’ size..

I am just upgrading myself, so at the moment I’m leaving that kind of ‘realistic view’ to all realists that believe in miracles!

Originally Posted by sheLovesIt
UKlad, I think that you make a very good point. Too many men think that if they have a big cock, that that is all they need to satify a woman. I think that a passionate kiss can be just as powerful. Women love romance and a great kiss can be the key to unlock all their desires.

I met a girl who made love to me with just her kiss. We were too young to go beyond that. After her I never met a woman who could kiss like that, and for that long, hours. They either cannot do it, just don’t like it, or it is too sexual and they want to move on to the next thing.

This kiss is really no secret … it is just a very deep French kiss but requires one more thing… the receiver needs to gently suck the givers tongue… and sometimes more than just a little. The giver needs to relax and trust that the receiver will not pull too hard. This is a “lovers” kiss and she will get the message!

I try this occassionally with my wife. She will do it, but she almost immediately wants intercourse preceeded by oral. I think that this kiss is too sexually stimulating for her. So we never get to do really heavy petting. I have tried to withhold sex and stay with the kiss but she basicly attacks me.

Thanks for making me remember a pearl from my past.

The next time you kiss, go deep, then see if she will go deep on you. Don’t give up too quickly. It takes a little time for her to figure out what you want her to do. If she goes deep on you then gently suck her tongue and try to alternate.

It gives new meaning to oral sex. Use with caution.

sheLovesIt


My ex didn’t like using tongue very much because of her previous experiences. I myself kinda felt like right then and there our passion dimmed down because she was holding me back :(

It took months for her to try kissing me with her tongue and mine just staying put ( really lame ) but even still then she didn’t like it much.
I feel cheated in the sense that she would hold back on being, in my mind, passionate with me through kissing and secondly because I missed out on lots of make out sessions and practice of tongue.

I am looking forward to an opportunity to try this!

Let’s cut the crap and not forget why most of us are here:

You can’t teach size

Penis Size - A realistic view

Originally Posted by stuzilla
I’m posting this thread as there are several posts emerging along the lines of guys feeling small when they have 6.5 inches or more bpel.

According to the studies if you have 5.5 to 6 inches, then you are average. Now, most of us don’t want to be average, but it isn't small.

If you know anything about women, you will know that they comment on the pressure that they feel from the media to be perfect according to the images that are presented to them. So the question becomes; Is this attitude of I’m small when I’m really not small coming from the media that you watch?

Lets start with the body and work our way to the penis. Many of the male body images we see are actors and models. These guys don’t do a normal job, in fact working out is part of their 9-5. Most of us do not have the hours that they do to put into things like exercise (especially as we take on more responsibilities and commitments in life), and they usually have the money to pay for cleaners, nannies, personal trainers, plastic surgery,etc.

Now to the penis. Most of the cocks we see are in porn. The porn industry does do a few small/normal films, but most of the male actors are hired because of their cock size. So if you’re sat around watching porn, and most of the cocks that your brain sees are about 8 inches, then when you look at your way above average cock it is possible that you are going to think my cock is smaller than those cocks that I look at in porn, which can then be shortened to ‘my cock is small’.

Now lets take a glance at some made up stats. So, in the porn industry there are probably tens of thousands of male actors globally. So lets base some figures on an exagerated number of there being 1,000,000 male porn actors at any moment, and they are all hung like donkeys.

The global male population of 15-64 year olds is 2,234,860,865, so even if you had seen each and every porn cock out there, you will have only seen ~0.0004% of cocks.

At a realistic level, you’ve probably seen less than 1000 male porn actors (yes some of you will have seen more, you deviants :) ), so this would be ~0.0000004% of cocks from the chosen sample range(The data I have does include 15-17 year olds, but that is the way it is collated).

So, if you are thinking that you are small because of the cocks that you have seen in porn, then you are basing your feelings of inadequacy on seeing less than 0.0000004% of human cocks on the planet, and that is a skewed sample (see NB below) because of the nature of the industry.

There will be guys who come here, looking for a solution when they have much less length than you. Often we don’t hear from these guys, yet these are the people who could gain the most from the vets on the forum in terms of technique, and probably could do with the support of the TP brotherhood.

So when you start looking at a 6.5 inch cock, realise that it isn’t small, and that there are members here who dream of having 5 inches one day. And then maybe think how you look to them, and how off putting your comments could be to them. Remember that TP is about brotherhood as well as getting a bigger wang, so look after your brothers.

Two pertinent quotes

“The eyes are the window of the soul” Traditional Proverb
“We begin by coveting what we see every day.” Hannibal Lecter

Global Population data:

NB - a sample is skewed when the data chosen is loaded, for example using the average cock size of men in the porn industry to derive a global population average penis size would be skewed.


Great Post! The Quote should be mandatory reading before entering the Newbie status. Clearly there are members who haven’t read this or don’t care. Too bad those that don’t care choose to live life like that! Maybe life will one day teach them to get over themselves.


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Mind over matter. All of life is transitional.

That’s right you can’t get a 4” growth with some magic pills. You must be realistic and should not expect that much. Even surgery can get you only a one inch growth. So, always prefer natural ways of PE like natural pills and exercise.


Really sid_aga? :rolleyes:

Oh, I noticed you replaced that “useful” link that ThunderSS removed for you earlier.

We will see how that works out for you.


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Excellent thread here. I’m new here, 25, and I was one of those guys who watched porn and couldn’t help comparing myself to them since they were almost the only dicks I had seen for comparison. Also, as I’m a 5’5 Caucasian with noticeably small hands and feet (size 8), I assumed people taller than me (most people) would naturally have bigger equipment than me.

Consequently, thinking I was small, I was self-conscious with any girl, worrying she was thinking how small I was even if she didn’t say anything, and when I was told “I like your size” I just thought that was her being nice, not honest. It also caused me to avoid pursuing anyone but rather short/small girls, as I assumed they would have smaller vaginas so I would be able to please them better. I became a big student of pick-up with books like The Game and ones on body language to help me fake confidence (extra eye contact, for example).

Reading dildo reviews from women on toy sites gave me some insight into what women are looking for (huge isn’t ideal), and this site, with some statistics to back up people’s experiences, is actually a big confidence builder. I was surprised to find that my 5.9” bpel and 5.5” EG is much larger than I suspected compared to the population. 5.5” girth is about in the 88-92% percentile! (Mraverage site) and 5.9 isn’t below average at all! Huge confidence gain/loss of sexual anxiety for me.

Knowing where you actually stand rather than basing yourself on porn and assumptions would be helpful for a lot of people. Without any PE work, I now feel way more confident about myself, around girls and just hanging around my guy friends who are 6’-6’5, as I now know height isn’t necessarily a good corollary to dick size. I’m just more confident being my height now that I’m more confident with my cock size. I’ll be open to dating a girl taller than me for once too.

I also talked to a girl about dick size yesterday and although she had no idea what I measured, she said girth was much more important than length, and bigger didn’t mean better and “isn’t necessarily more of a turn-on” as it can be intimidating and/or painful. She ideally wants someone who can fully enter her without worry of hurting her if he goes too far in. Then she can ride away and grind without worry of pain, which she likes.

I’ll still go for about an inch in gains, though this knowledge is huge! Wish me luck!


Last edited by Twentyfive : 03-27-2012 at .

On a 5’5” body, I expect you may actually get some ‘large’ comments. Because 5.5” is. :up: :)


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