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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Originally Posted by Trekker
1: I’m using metric, but I post stats here in inches.
2: Got it.
3: Yes
4: Right
5: Yes
Thanks for your reply, 32. I have everything pretty much in line with your suggestions for best practice … My length increase is slow, but in general I see an increase. But strain % — while it varies according to time of day, PE exercise, or amount of weight or tension — has stayed well above 1 to 2% — it’s more like 5 or 6% and has not decreased. Do I need a decon, or would you suggest just staying with it? Thoughts from others?

Your strain % makes so much more sense than 1-2%. I think the 4-8% range based on the bellow articles.

https://www.res earchgate.net/f … _fig5_241623404

Tendons and ligaments can be strained to between 5% and 7% without damage. The maximum strain that a ligament or tendon can endure before failure is generally in the neighborhood of 12% to 15%; however, substantial damage to the collagen network can occur well before complete rupture.
(from link below)

https://link.sp ringer.com/chap … 8?noAccess=true

I need information about the method.

Would you advise how many minutes of session and how many times a week?

Device

I got a $50 device that’s been giving me some encouraging results for my EQ, very encouraging actually. It is perhaps a bit less than optimal for heating and PE purposes, as it is one of the devices that maxes out at .6w/cm^2 with 1mhz oscillation.

I’ve been reading that I might have more success with different specs. I found a relatively cheap one at 3mhz oscillation and 2w/cm^2 output. It is called the ZEMITS ultrasound ultraglow LED system. My intention is to use it while hanging, or before clamping. Does this look like a good device based on the specs? Does anyone see any wonky issues using this device for PE purposes?

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
Your strain % makes so much more sense than 1-2%. I think the 4-8% range based on the bellow articles.

https://www.researchgate.net/f … _fig5_241623404

Tendons and ligaments can be strained to between 5% and 7% without damage. The maximum strain that a ligament or tendon can endure before failure is generally in the neighborhood of 12% to 15%; however, substantial damage to the collagen network can occur well before complete rupture.
(from link below)

https://link.springer.com/chap … 8?noAccess=true


gomitadelimon, thanks for your reply. I’ll stay with the program — no decon at this time.


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I’m on my second six week round of US treatment now - 3 weeks in after a two month decon between rounds. I do 60 minutes (30 adding a pound every 6 minutes until 5lbs, then OTL 20 minutes US at 5lbs at 42C, then 10 minutes cool down straight down at 6.5lbs). 3 on 2 off.

Dunce starting US in November 2021, I’ve increased my pre exercise BPFSL from 19.3 to 21cm and post exercise BPFSL from 20 to 22cm. Typical strain rate is between 3 and 5%.

In the past two days I’ve hit records on pre exercise (21cm) and post exercise BPFSL (22cm) - that said, I’ve made no gains in BPEL for quite some time (~ 4 months) - stuck at 19cm - wondering if I should do any of the following?

Keep going as is and just wait for the BPEL to catch up. That would mean finishing this round - 3 more weeks then 2 month decon and repeat.

Take an extended decon (5 months or more)?

Increase the weight?

Add in pumping or jelqing?

Any suggestions are very much welcome.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

What Is This Method?

Can someone resume me what is this about ? I know that is for getting quicker results but how I don’t know how it works and what to do

Hello. What is the density of the transducer in the us pro 2000? Era = 4 cm². But what is the area of the transducer is not specified. Thank you.


Sorry for my English

Hi colleagues. What do you think, a large silicone dildo, you can buy in a sex shop, is suitable as a phantom?


Sorry for my English

So you strap the stretcher to your leg while using this? Can anyone deliver pics of this kind of stretcher being in use, would give a clearer picture that way.

I’m still wondering about exactly what things can be suitable phantoms on the opposing side of the penis for the Ultrasound device to work properly. Placing the penis upside-down over a leg with an extender is not optimal, as the extender wants to be placed forward mostly, not to the side.

If possible, I feel the best way to do the whole routine is placing my dick straight forward on an infrared heating patch, and using the US on the top side of the penis. It’s been said that ultrasound should be used on the bottom side of the penis, but if the IR patch is already heating that side, then could using US on the top side be sufficient?

If that’s not something that would work, then the other option I’d like to do is placing my dick on my stomach and extending that direction, so as to heat the bottom side with US. But aside from needing a suitable phantom and still not knowing exactly what works, the other issue is US isn’t supposed to be pointed at internal organs. I’ve asked before if placing a towel on the stomach would be sufficient protection, anyone know?

And finally, I’m still wondering what liquid/gel substances aside from the specific US gel are suitable to place on the penis. The gel is an annoying extra thing to have to constantly apply from a bottle, I’ve tested with saliva instead and it definitely is allowing heat to flow, but I don’t know if this is optimal enough.

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Last edited by 32quarters : 05-07-2022 at .

I am formally requesting that someone comfortable with the applicable knowledge base start a new thread that lays out a practical guide to beginning an ultrasound protocol, with limited theory, where any abbreviations are immediately laid out, and no math other than that which one is practically required to perform oneself (such as to determine one’s own ideal strain/stress point). These threads are a treasure, but they are so incredibly vast and so incredibly dense that they have lost a large portion of their utility. This might be a result of some sort of dyslexia or something but using the search function at this point to try to get to the origin or explanation of any one particular aspect of a comprehensive Ultrasound protocol has become nearly impossible (for me), as the search results yield now hundreds of posts on any particular topic (it should not take hours of searching to get to the explanation of what a phantom is, or a simple explanation of its necessity). It’s been too long, and if I may be blunt, offering a piecemeal understanding of any protocol can be dangerous (as a vague but certainly extreme parallel/analogy see the “banding my penis” thread, in which a poster accidentally castrated himself).

I understand that much of the optimization of this protocol is incomplete and that we are still arriving at a comprehensive theoretically sound approach to a US protocol, but I believe that it is possible to acknowledge where those variables may lay in a practical outline.

I would love to volunteer to write it, but my understanding of the protocol, even after sifting through these threads for so long is incomplete, convoluted and confused by the sheer volume of extremely dense (but certainly appreciated and extremely valuable) theory, as well as certain grammatical and language obstacles. I would be happy to type out a draft and submit it for editing to those who can fill in the sizeable gaps in my knowledge, but it will be more of a skeleton, despite the fact that I have already been utilizing ultrasound already for some time! I know for a fact that I am not the only one doing so with an non-comprehensive understanding of how to construct my own protocol.
Is there anybody up for this?

Something like
-Ultrasound Extension 101-
1. Instruction for Determining Strain/Stress and how that information is used (something I have not ever been able to find via the search function)
2. Device List (necessary US device specs with one or two examples, gel, extender/hanger, phantom and very brief layperson description of why each spec is important such as continuous US and minimum power requirement)
3. Outline of designing a safe routine/schedule, acknowledging where there is room for variability in terms of frequency, duration, rest days, and where there appear to be necessary safety observations.
4. Potential Danger Vectors (such as >45C temperatures, cavitation, tissue toughening/fibrosis, hanging/extension injuries, etc.)

Hope this doesn’t come across as ungrateful or combative. I am a big fan of this area of exploration, and very grateful for those pioneering it and sharing their theories and findings.

I agree what you are asking would be nice to have, but it is a huge amount of work. I gave it some thought, realized what it would take, and didn’t go forward with it.

I seem to recall Kyrpa was going to generate a more condensed guide, but havent heard an update. I think he’s taking some time away from the forum.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.75” BPEL; 7.25” NBPEL; 8.25” BPFSL; 6.25” - 6.5” MEG w/ c-ring.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
I agree what you are asking would be nice to have, but it is a huge amount of work. I gave it some thought, realized what it would take, and didn’t go forward with it.

I seem to recall Kyrpa was going to generate a more condensed guide, but haven’t heard an update. I think he’s taking some time away from the forum.

Agreed, it is definitely a huge amount of work. I think I’ll write up the skeleton of an outline and send it around and see if people can contribute sporadically, I don’t think it necessarily has to be exhaustive, and perhaps it could simply link to outside posts for certain acute instructions if there is a concise guide elsewhere on the forum for something like calculating load/strain curve, or if there is a dedicated thread for reviewing various ultrasound devices.

FWIW, the Therasound system I have maxes out at 2.1 watts, which after 15-20 minutes isnt enough to get above 37C with a 8 temperature probe embedded silicone phantom I use on the dorsal side.

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