Originally Posted by Tutt
First off, what do you mean by decon? My baseline assumption during decon is that there are frequent natural erections, but no exogenous tissue stress. We haven’t yet figured out a way to continue PE indefinitely without the physiological response of toughening the existing tissues. I strongly suspect that it is primarily strain rate that is the primary problem. But anyway we are left with trying to work within the most optimal cycles using the current data. Keep in mind that the tissue responds heavily to tissue stress about 10-21 days into repeated treatment. That is, your body has mechanisms to avoid using precious tissue-building resources responding to random isolated stressors. After about a week of repeated stress, the body assumes the stress will keep repeating and begins to fortify the tissues. This response correlates to the intensity of the stress. Faster, higher load, colder, more damaging stresses create a more rapid and intense physiological response. As the stress continues into weeks 3, 4, 5, etc. the body fully adapts and makes the tissue so tough that it could withstand exponentially higher loading. Absent the stress, the tissue will regain a significant amount of elasticity within 3 months, which means the fibers begin to reorganize, re-crimp, and re-bond. However, the increased tissue density remains much longer.
At this point we get into pure theory in the absence of controlled trials. On the one hand, it might be optimal to perform treatment until short term gains are exhausted and then decon for 3 months until the modulus has changed enough to create elasticity. On the other hand, it might be optimal to cease treatment at about 18-21 days to abort the full physiological response, then take a 3 month decon. Then again, it might be best to perform treatment so infrequently (once every 4-7 days) and optimally (reaching absolutr maximum strain very slowly at perfect temp) that the tissue response simply doesn’t happen.
We simply don’t have the data for this. But there are somethings we do know. The first of those options absolutely creates an adverse tissue response that builds over time. To the point that not even a 3 month decon will work. Depending on the person, the long 6-12 month decon will be required, in order to allow more than 80% of the old tissue cells to cycle.
The last of those could possibly produce the greatest long term results, but require incredible dedication over many years of slow progress. While the second protocol might be the best hybrid of reasonably rapid results with only short bursts of dedication.
But for you currently, I don’t see any way that you can avoid at least a 6 month decon and then another 3 month decon after each intense cycle, the way you are currently doing things.
Thanks a lot for your detailed and quick answer, this is greatly appreciated. You can be sure I will implement the information you give me and it will benefit more people through my log :-) . By decon I meant no PE and not even measuring. Only sex and sometimes (preferably little) masturbation. I understand and find the hybrid version enticing.
If I see it correctly, 40 days of training toughens the tissue too much, that is why 18-21 days is preferred. This would mean after the initial long 6+ months decon, I only have to do 3months after every 18-21 day training session. If my body allows, another very long 6+ months decon will not be necessary then. My goal is to gain an additional 3.8cm BPFSL to reach 25cm BPFSL. Ideally, this should equal 23cm BPEL. Thus there are no “indefinite” gains planned, but still very substantial ones. Now I only hope my gains rate increases.
My current gaining speed is 1mm/5 days. My initial gaining speed was 1.7mm/5 days where I gained my first 1.5cm BPFSL relatively quickly. If I can only gain 1mm/5 days and only train for 20 days a period and do a 90 days decon then, it will take a lot of time to reach my goal. Then again, it may be faster than toughening the tissue too much and reaching a dead end where only a year off can help.
