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Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

As I read more about ultrasound for therapeutic heat, I think it’s too risky for me to use because one of the contraindications is not to use on sexual organs. Surely ultrasound heat penetrates deeper into body tissues (somewhere to around 3” depth), but the penis is stretched quite thin during hanging that even a regular heat pad wrapped around it, set at a proper temp, gives penetrating heat through the shaft after a short time, and is less risky health wise.

Therapeutic Ultrasound in Physical Therapy

Contraindications if using above 45ºC (as it causes cell apoptosis), but with the US PRO it will shutdown before you reach that temp, once 42ºc on the transducer head it shutdowns, plain and simple.

Besides why noone FOllows what kyrpa and manko007 did? Urethral temp/ dorsal k type measurements?? The only three things that work are IR LAMP(cbateman), ultrasound(kyrpa, igigi) and RF(tutt). The rest is just an approach for stiffening. But we can all believe in 12” dreamland.

Literally using a thermal pad is against what KYRPA and TUTT explained (its inside this thread explained why its useless), please don’t come and argue that this is better, that is better, yadayadayada. They shared collective scientific papers and logged everything.

But but but, I believe hanging is better and I am going to stretch my penis with 50kg like BIB did. Then the asians that hang giant rocks down their penis should be 12” already.

@igigi;

- Could you comment on this please?
- Did you lose your member?
- Are you impotent now?
- what happened when you erect stretch your penis in the past prior to using ultrasound?
- What happened when you hanged your penis with super heavy weights?

Stop making this thread more confusing using thermal pads and whatnot, stick to what they collective shared, simply read 3 pages per day and will find all the knowledge needed.


Last edited by alpinedel : 07-11-2022 at .

Originally Posted by alpinedel

But but but, I believe hanging is better and I am going to stretch my penis with 50kg like BIB did. Then the asians that hang giant rocks down their penis should be 12” already.

You really need to get a get a good view of how they tie the rocks. They don´t tie it to ONLY their penis. They tie it to their SCROTUM (BALLS and PENIS) and that alone is sufficient body structure to hold up 50KG or more. That is why they don´t have 12 inch penises.

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
You really need to get a get a good view of how they tie the rocks. They don´t tie it to ONLY their penis. They tie it to their SCROTUM (BALLS and PENIS) and that alone is sufficient body structure to hold up 50KG or more. That is why they don´t have 12 inch penises.

Still my point remains, 10-50kg is absurd to hang let alone using a thermal pad that heats the surface and not the septum. I respect your enthusiasm but no, you will end up with a toughed tissue and I am pretty sure you won’t become “Robert Esquivel Cabrera” - Mexico - a.k.a Mr 48cm penis.

Originally Posted by alpinedel
Still my point remains, 10-50kg is absurd to hang let alone using a thermal pad that heats the surface and not the septum. I respect your enthusiasm but no, you will end up with a toughed tissue and I am pretty sure you won’t become “Robert Esquivel Cabrera” - Mexico - a.k.a Mr 48cm penis.

I agree. It is absurd but I also doubt they are hanging for the purpose of PE.

Originally Posted by alpinedel
Contraindications if using above 45ºC (as it causes cell apoptosis), but with the US PRO it will shutdown before you reach that temp, once 42ºc on the transducer head it shutdowns, plain and simple.

No. The contraindication is not to use on sexual organs. Setting temp above 45C is not safe and is not a contraindication. Read the link above, written by a health professional.

Originally Posted by alpinedel

Besides why noone FOllows what kyrpa and manko007 did? Urethral temp/ dorsal k type measurements?? The only three things that work are IR LAMP(cbateman), ultrasound(kyrpa, igigi) and RF(tutt). The rest is just an approach for stiffening. But we can all believe in 12” dreamland.


No. There are many roads leading to Rome. Feel free to choose the safe ones.

Originally Posted by alpinedel

Literally using a thermal pad is against what KYRPA and TUTT explained (its inside this thread explained why its useless), please don’t come and argue that this is better, that is better, yadayadayada. They shared collective scientific papers and logged everything.


Wrong again. I’m not arguing this is better or that is better. Just point out the risk and what I would not do.

Originally Posted by alpinedel

But but but, I believe hanging is better and I am going to stretch my penis with 50kg like BIB did. Then the asians that hang giant rocks down their penis should be 12” already.


What a strange belief.

Originally Posted by alpinedel

Stop making this thread more confusing using thermal pads and whatnot, stick to what they collective shared, simply read 3 pages per day and will find all the knowledge needed.


You don’t tell me what I want to express my concern about the risks, and what I do or do not want to take the risk. Stop your know-it-all nonsense.

Am I hurting your freedom by any chance for expressing the truth?

Yet again your concern about heating had been addressed back in the thread but many of you choose to: “hey TL;dr me this thread”, no buddy no.

Read the whole THREAD.

Nowhere in this thread explains to use a thermal pad.

Kyrpa and tutt explained is only going to heat the surface but again you want to ignore their knowledge, please go ahead.

Good luck achieving a 10” BPEL while using a thermal PAD.

I don’t want to keep the nonsense argument, good luck in your journey but you are in the wrong. RF > Ultrasound > IR lamp . Not a thermal pad.

I wish you the best, have a nice day xoxo.


Last edited by alpinedel : 07-11-2022 at .

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon

I agree. It is absurd but I also doubt they are hanging for the purpose of PE.

I do agree also with you on this point, merely as a show

Originally Posted by alpinedel
Am I hurting your freedom by any chance for expressing the truth?

Yet again your concern about heating had been addressed back in the thread but many of you choose to: “hey TL;dr me this thread”, no buddy no.

Read the whole THREAD.


In term of safety, only people who have lots of experiences in the field of laser like Tutt should be tinkering with US. Too much risks for average users. In the thread, they did explain the basics of various types of heat penetration, as well as pointing out the safety notions of not pointing the transducer beam to prostate, testis, intestine, anus. But there is no mention of sound wave bouncing, reflecting off the shaft into surrounding areas that should not be exposed to. And since the beams on these commercial pads are not laser focus, the chance of leaking, bouncing, reflecting waves are even greater. And therefore the contraindication of not using on sexual organs.

Originally Posted by alpinedel

Nowhere in this thread explains to use a thermal pad.

Well, maybe the lowly but safe thermal pad should be used to achieve the similar results, even though it may take a little longer to get to the desired internal temp, as they noted in the thread.

Originally Posted by alpinedel

Kyrpa and tutt explained is only going to heat the surface but again you want to ignore their knowledge, please go ahead.

See my comment just above

Originally Posted by alpinedel

Good luck achieving a 10” BPEL while using a thermal PAD.


Tell that to Bib and the veterans on here, and they only used rice socks.

Originally Posted by alpinedel
I don’t want to keep the nonsense argument, good luck in your journey but you are in the wrong. RF > Ultrasound > IR lamp . Not a thermal pad.
I wish you the best, have a nice day xoxo.

Again if you understand science of sound wave and the risks of it you don’t argue nonsense. That’s not even considering the reliability of the device when it may fail to perform as intended. Then people may end up with well done meats or cancerous growths somewhere on their body. Take the risks as you wish. And people even talked about commercializing it. Good luck with the approval.

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
That is great news. Would like to hear what exactly was your routine before and how have you modified it with the heat??

I started about 10 + years ago. I remember reading about Bib. I figured if he can do it, I can.

I mostly did weight hanging SD and BTC. Also, I have an older extender I used.
I think around 2015 I hit a hump @ 7 inches, wanting to get to 8.5 “. I finally tried to incorporate more heat via water, heated wash cloths with my extender, rice sock and heat pad. I finally got thru it. I did mostly 3 hangs 4 x week and took weekends off. Now this is adding gradual weight. Two years ago. I was up 45 lbs @ 20 mins with 10 mins of pre heat. I made it to too lil under 9”. I think I started at 6.5” back then.
I read tons of threads on here and there, plus self taught myself tailored to my own tool. I made my own hang devices along the way, I machined from aluminum/clamp still. I bought quite a few What A Grips. Old folks know what I mean. I used them plus wrapping etc.. To endure the weight. At two years ago. I hit a brick wall. I tried everything with more heat, more weight, etc.. Nothing worked. This spring I fell back to 8.5” ish inches BPEL. I can stretch BPFSL at 9”. Usually, my tool runs an inch behind. I took a break thru winter months and started pre heat and hanging again. Nothing!! I was stuck at 8.5”. Now this is hanging 3-4 x a week x4 days @45 lbs. I even dropped weight and tried everything imaginable. Nothing but maybe 1/4 “.

I discovered these US forums here and read them all. Talk about some dedicated, result oriented guys. I’m the same way.
I’m doing 20 mins of extender IR heat stress.

Then I’m doing 20 mins of IR/US extender force.

I’m doing a 15 min cool down.

Is it perfected my regime? Heck no!

I’m also waiting till later on in the day while my tool brain is relaxed and attacking it with 20 mins of hanging at 30lbs.

Well Virginia! There is a Santa Claus! I’m moving up to 9.5” of BPFSL and feel my tool is close to 9” again. It’s starting to move.

Am I perfect? Whom knows? Can I tolerated more weight than most? Probably!

Do I have a good measurement and process log? No! I’m not one that measures daily and I’m more monthly and can tell if it’s working or not.

Kudos for all your work.

I’m Using the US Pro 2000 2ND edition. I also tape a couple of temp leads on my Dorsal. My IR heat lamp almost gets me there but US finalizes things.

So bare with me.. I’ve started about 2 weeks ago and figuring out my system.

Trying to see if the extra hanging later on works. Yesterday it did cold with no heat. It’s sore today.

Guess I need to convert to CM at some point.

Would there be any negatives to pumping even just 10mins 3 times a week along side the routine.

It’s mainly for blood flow, my penis hangs lower and feels healthier with a little pumping but I’m worried it would effect the routine negatively?

So far so good with the ultrasound regime.
I got back my lost 1/2” and over last couple weeks I’ve gained another 1/4”.

I’m using my old extender with stiffer springs with IR heat for 20 mins to stress relief. Sometimes if it feels ok I might use US for 10 mins. I then cool down for 10 mins.

Then I get back in extender and use IR heat for 20 mins and US for last 10 mins. I wrap up to hand starting at 30lbs and gradually add two more 5lb weights. Then for last 5 minutes I go back down to 30 lbs. Hanging I only go 15 mins total. I seem to get great stretch results. Warning tho, I can hang up to 45 lbs but I get results with less weight.

Later in day when things are calmed down and relaxed. I hang with 40lbs for another 15 mins.
It’s definitely got me past my road block.

Originally Posted by Dnkydk
Now this is hanging 3-4 x a week x4 days @45 lbs. I even dropped weight and tried everything imaginable. Nothing but maybe 1/4 “.

Hey man, glad to have you chiming in, we need more anecdotes from long timers like yourself!

What you said here may be the exact reason for your plateau. Have you had an extended decon break?
After speaking with Tutt on the topic of the necessity of allowing the tunica’s collagen fibers to reorient themselves, I decided I was about 10 years overdue for a decon break. This is back in May. I hadn’t seen gains, particularly girth gains, in most of my 12 years of PE. Extremely negligible. And at some point I had stopped seeing red spots, no matter how hard I hit it, which, take for what you will, have always seemed to accompany good sessions for me. I kept hitting it, harder and harder, with absolute dedication. Months of intensive logging, thousands and thousands and thousands of jelqs, ulis, stretching, pumping. And all I noticed was that the tissues seemed less and less pliable. It honestly felt fibrous. Which more or less is what you get from attacking the tunica without decon for years and years.

Anyway, I’m rambling, but long story short, I took a two month decon break (which is admittedly less than the 8 months that Tutt recommended to me) and in that time, I saw better flaccid hang than I’d seen in years, better EQ avery quickly, and the near total disappearance of a spongiosum injury that had been plaguing me for longer than I could remember. And when coming back to PE after those 2 months, I could feel the pliability, the tissue expansion, and penile health in ways that had been missing for most of the last 10 years. I just want to add purely anecdotal emphasis to the perspective that Tutt and many others have said throughout the forum: decon is non-negotiable for PE.

The thought of taking 2 months off was honestly terrifying to me. It felt like I would be turning away from months of gains. I now believe this is one of the more nefarious illusions we’re bound to experience with PE, because I had been turning away from years of possible gains by avoiding a decon break that I probably should have taken in 2011. I wasted years and years and a horrifying amount of time trying to persist through exercises without taking a break.

Which is not to say that this is conclusive evidence or a magic bullet, since I may still see negligible gains going forward. Maybe I’m one of those whose bodies simply will not respond to PE. But I’m not finding that to be true, overall. I will try to get better data going forward to lend more credence to the decon-centric theory. In the meantime, for those who get anxious at the thought of taking a break, I highly recommend surrendering to a vacation from PE.

Originally Posted by Tutt
Which Therasound and applicator do you have? And was it used? Did you have it at 100% duty cycle?

I use it at 100%. After about 20-25min I do get to hit 39-40C. One of the 8 temp probes I have in the phantom surface against the top of the shaft does hit 42-43c, but all the others do about 38-39c.
I use phantom on top, US system on the bottom. Hands free.

Took a month long break, mostly due to traveling. Starting out again tonight, no US though. I hang about 8lbs with a pulley under my desk so all hands free. Sometimes I go to 10lbs, this is with a vacuum hanger. Its the only way that works for me, although I do tape, and sometimes get a blister which stops me for about a 5-7 days.

Originally Posted by kushextender
I use it at 100%. After about 20-25min I do get to hit 39-40C. One of the 8 temp probes I have in the phantom surface against the top of the shaft does hit 42-43c, but all the others do about 38-39c.
I use phantom on top, US system on the bottom. Hands free.

Took a month long break, mostly due to traveling. Starting out again tonight, no US though. I hang about 8lbs with a pulley under my desk so all hands free. Sometimes I go to 10lbs, this is with a vacuum hanger. Its the only way that works for me, although I do tape, and sometimes get a blister which stops me for about a 5-7 days.

Did you have it set on 1mHz only or cycling between 1 & 3? Do you use the gel pads?

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