How to Read & Adjust Rod style Traction Devices (X4/Size Genetics/JES/Similar)

Hi again,
I’ve come across another issue.. The noose seems to loosen up recently which prevents from holding the glans in place and just slips out after 20 minutes.. It’s very frustrating it happened in a subway and the device just fell off and slipped through my jeans in front of everybody.. Ugh I heard about the velcro mod how do you purchase or DIY?

Any tips to keep the noose in place?

Thanks

Hi, I’ve been looking at this thread for hours now and I really don’t understand it.

Specifically, tension versus length.

On my device, it doesn’t matter how much I adjust the upper-screw and top screw, three lines are showing, and the only thing it seems to do is adjust the length at which the device is stretching. In which case, why not simply add more and more length to ensure you are actually stretching the penis?

What the heck am I missing?

When you put the extender on do you need to compress it so that the strap or noose will be inline with your shaft just below the glans so that you can strap in?

If not, add some length to the bars.

You should be seeing and feeling tension as you adjust out the screws and lengthen the system, if you don’t, then you might have the system set up too short.

I may need to add some pictures, for I could be doing it perfectly well!

Yes, I do compress it. The extender is beyond my flaccid length. In order to get it in the noose/strap, I push all the way in, tighten it down, and then release it. This seems to create a decent amount of tension.

I’m confused as the purpose of the bars and screws and the “g measurements.”

From the way it is described, and maybe I’m misunderstanding, it seems that when the device is on you are actually able to adjust the middle tension rod and the bottom-most screw in order to adjust the forces being applied, rather than the length itself? And that in-doing so, you are actually able to feel along the side/see how many lines and bars are hidden.

This does not happen on my device. Adjusting the middle and bottom rods doesn’t change the visibility of the lines, it just increases the length being stretched as if another rod was added.

Is this what it is supposed to do? Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the lines? I seem to do fine without it gains wise, but I’ve been trying to understand this more because I recently came across it in a manual on the device. I was under the assumption I would just keep increasing the length as the penis grew.

If the device tension bars are not obscured by the piston you are not generating force from the springs. There is force being generated however. What amount of force you need to elongate your penis to the stretched length is at is being applied. It isn’t a heavy level of force but it is force over time. I used my extender this way at first.

If dialing the knobs at the bottom only make the extender longer, you need to add more bars and dial the tension knobs back in. When the extender is long enough dialing those knobs longer at the base will cause the device hit your maximum stretched length and begin to apply the gram levels of tension based on the preset strength of your springs. The pistons will compress when you dial the knobs out when the extender is long enough. Your stretchable length has a physical limit. You have to hit it in order for the springs to have a chance to act on your penis.

It will feel far more intense than your current setup.

I use baby powder or wedge something like thin and tacky in the channels for the noose. Paper towel and toilet paper CAN Thin strips of rubber or vinyl…even a piece of fine sandpaper may work (but may damage the cradle or nooses).

Thank you so much.
Takeaway:
1. Pressure is being applied, even without torque from bottom screws — it’s just based on bar length
2. The Flaccid Penis has max stretched length. Before pressure can be increased with torque screws, you need to hit that length first by adding bars until you hit that max.

Sounds like it will be another new learning process. I will keep increasing bar length keeping in mind general PE practices for PIs and overtraining.
The stretches have been relaxed but I’ve been reluctant to add bars because I didn’t understand this part of the pension system.

Thanks again.

Yes. It is considered an inefficient level of force by many but definitely is force. Your penis is not stretching itself to the level of elongation the device holds it at on its own. The process just isn’t assisted by the springs at this time.

Dead on. It’ll be tricky to hit that maximum at first if you have not before. I suggest trying it once, after notating your current setup so you can go back to it. Trying it once will give you an idea of what is ahead. Do it for 10-15 minutes and then go back to what you’re doing. It’ll give you knowledge and help you understand what I’m saying for yourself.

You’re welcome. Progress in your own time. Understanding comes with experience and trial and effort. The goal line for everyone is adjusted accordingly.

I’ve read most of these post here and I’m more confused then I was.

Springs or no springs? What ones do you recommend. I think I know enough to stay away from the cheap one Ebay?

Is there a specific extender(s) that you are considering? If so, which one(s)?

Most of us are using spring style systems. Some are using belt systems.

Possibly X4? Unless someone know more that I know and know very very little. Do a Google search and you will see.

Before you jump into an extender have you done any manual work such as jelqing?

Jelqing for years and recently purchased a pump with 2” cylinder and that is not going to last long before I have to upgrade. I’m not looking to increase girth as much as I am looking for length.

My experience has been with the X4 and PenimasterPro (PMP). I did 1300 hours on the X4, it’s a solid extender in my opinion. With that option you can use the noose or strap, both come with it. However, expect to release the noose or strap ever 30 to 45 minutes to allow for circulation, an hour is typically most. Take a five to ten minute break and then strap back in. It’s a grind.

The PMP is vac style system and from my opinion, probably one of the best designs as far as vac style head attachments go for extenders. With that said, I’m recovering from a blister I received after jumping into a two hour cycle right after a 3 week decon break. So acclimating and taking it slow is important in vac style systems, this is to mitigate chances of blistering on the glans. So again, beginning with 45 minute cycles and slowly working your way up, regardless of if it feels like you could go for hours, which it can feel like with a vacuum system.

The PMP base gives me ball burns (irritation on the balls right below the shaft). This becomes so intolerable that one can no longer wear the system. With that said the X4 base does not give me ball burns, so I use the x4 base with the PMP vac head assembly. Expensive assembly, but works for me, the x4 base could just be right for me, not a panacea.

At the end of the day no system will be perfectly comfortable and they all will require a degree of stubbornness to overcome the learning curves and break-in periods.

I attempted to contact X4 through their web site Contact Us. Left a message about a purchase. As of now I haven’t heard back. I always question when the seller doesn’t respond about someone wanting to buy something. If don’t respond to a sale how do they respond to after the sale issues?