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How to Read & Adjust Rod style Traction Devices (X4/Size Genetics/JES/Similar)

Originally Posted by commercial
Thanks for your reply. Just a follow up question:
1. Is this a good and achievable plan (for 4-8 hours per day 5-6 days a week):
First month: 900g of tension
Second month: 1050g tension
Third month: 1200g tension
Fourth month: 1350g tension
Fifth month: 1500g tension
Sixth month: 1650g tension

I don’t find extender progression so predictable. Get used to wearing it and running the device with positive results. Then see where you are in 6 months.

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2. Why is it I see on other threads that others “consider” gaining when they add additional bars to the extender when in fact it should be the tension that matters? For example, is 16cm bar length with 1500g tension is the same as 18cm bar length with 1500g tension?

Your view on this is backwards.

Both setups you name have the same tension. Which, is common. Most guys run the same tension as a preference for the hours they put in and when they gain they add more bars to remain at the same tension at a longer length.

If you get longer in your extender and do not add bars your tension will naturally decrease because longer length will mean the extender is compressed less when you wear it unless you add more bars to maintain your tension level preferred.


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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
If you get longer in your extender and do not add bars your tension will naturally decrease because longer length will mean the extender is compressed less when you wear it unless you add more bars to maintain your tension level preferred.

This is well stated.


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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Generally by using less tension or extender length. The greater force you exert with these, the more bending you’ll experience.

Ignore it. This is your penis adapting to the length you’re asking it to reach. Repeated adjustment will dislodge the device and make use of it frustrating.

All you need is the total spring force that they are rated for and divide by three.

Size Genetics used to be 1500 or 1800 grams r total. They all were around 10 years ago. But take it at 1500

1st line- 500
2nd line- 1000
3rd line (fully compressed)- 1500

Apply it to the weight you know the springs to be. That is just an example because different makes of extender use different springs as do different models of the same make.

1. So does it mean, is it normal under high tension to experience it? Mine is just 900g.
2. Thanks for your response. But at the end of 1 hour, it goes back to no tension as I am initially set up to 1 bar line

3. I checked other threads here and found out that the first line is 900g, second is 1200g, third line is 1500g. But it is weird as the measurements are not 1/3 per bar line. But logically it should be 1/3.

Originally Posted by commercial
1. So does it mean, is it normal under high tension to experience it? Mine is just 900g.

Yes.

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2. Thanks for your response. But at the end of 1 hour, it goes back to no tension as I am initially set up to 1 bar line

Unless your penis has moved in the cradle, it lengthened during the set. Now, if your penis has shifted in the noose or strap I would be more concerned about attachment effectiveness than tension. Fail to attach and the device is useless.

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3. I checked other threads here and found out that the first line is 900g, second is 1200g, third line is 1500g. But it is weird as the measurements are not 1/3 per bar line. But logically it should be 1/3.

The threads here are not manufacturers. Neither am I. But, unless they use special springs that do not give equal force when compressed then it’s 1/3 divisions. I haven’t extended in over 7 years but the technology has not changed how spring physics works. It would require unique springs to give a not consistent rate of increasing force when compressed. The extender application would be a poor use for them.

It’s possible but improbable that the scale you read is accurate. I have nothing to gain by insisting my opinion is right so you will have to decide for yourself.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I don’t find extender progression so predictable. Get used to wearing it and running the device with positive results. Then see where you are in 6 months.

Your view on this is backwards.

Both setups you name have the same tension. Which, is common. Most guys run the same tension as a preference for the hours they put in and when they gain they add more bars to remain at the same tension at a longer length.

If you get longer in your extender and do not add bars your tension will naturally decrease because longer length will mean the extender is compressed less when you wear it unless you add more bars to maintain your tension level preferred.

Hi sir,

Thanks for your response. But honestly I can’t understand. What do you mean by it will naturally decrease? Can you please explain further?

Originally Posted by commercial
Hi sir,

Thanks for your response. But honestly I can’t understand. What do you mean by it will naturally decrease? Can you please explain further?

I cannot explain it better. Look at your extender and your penis. If your penis was 2 centimeters longer, at 18cm and you strapped it in and the extender was the same length as when you wore it at 16cm it would provide the longer penis less tension

Until you add length to the extender to match your new size it will give less tension and be less effective. Period.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

I also have another question:

1. When do you adjust the extender to the desired tension after you initially put the attachment all together? Is it when straight out, or when downward? I notice that if I adjust the tension while straight out to let’s say 2 bar lines then position it downward, the tension becomes 1.5 bar lines when read

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I cannot explain it better. Look at your extender and your penis. If your penis was 2 centimeters longer, at 18cm and you strapped it in and the extender was the same length as when you wore it at 16cm it would provide the longer penis less tension

Until you add length to the extender to match your new size it will give less tension and be less effective. Period.

Sorry I cannot understand the logic. But I want to understand the point.. For example, I have BPFSL of 14cm. Then I use a bar of 12cm and adjust the tension to 1000g.

Isn’t it I will get the same tension when I use 16cm bar and set it to 1000g as long as the “screws” are not visible when turning as per manufacturer’s instructions?

Originally Posted by commercial
I also have another question:

1. When do you adjust the extender to the desired tension after you initially put the attachment all together? Is it when straight out, or when downward? I notice that if I adjust the tension while straight out to let’s say 2 bar lines then position it downward, the tension becomes 1.5 bar lines when read

Are you saying the tension decreases? My experience is that if I go to two at straight, then it will increase to 2.5 to 3 bar lines.

Let’s ask you this another way. When you point the extender down, does it feel more intense or less?


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Originally Posted by LittleEngine
Are you saying the tension decreases? My experience is that if I go to two at straight, then it will increase to 2.5 to 3 bar lines.

Let’s ask you this another way. When you point the extender down, does it feel more intense or less?

Yes, the tension reading decreases when I adjust it downward maybe between center of the bar lines.
I honestly feel the same tension though.

But I guess it is because the base of the penis extender moves upward as I adjust the extender downward

Originally Posted by commercial
Sorry I cannot understand the logic. But I want to understand the point.. For example, I have BPFSL of 14cm. Then I use a bar of 12cm and adjust the tension to 1000g.

Isn’t it I will get the same tension when I use 16cm bar and set it to 1000g as long as the “screws” are not visible when turning as per manufacturer’s instructions?

Hi. The point with the extender, is that one should assemble ( put together) an extender that - compressed -, ( that is when pushed in with one hand ), is almost the same lenght as your FSL. The « grove» behind your head should correlate with the position of the noose or strap. The strap or noose should pull the shaft forward without trying to pull the head off the shaft, or in other words, not trying to pull the noose « through» the head.
So,your FSL is 14cm, then you put together an extender that compressed, are in a length that our head is in front of the noose. Then strap yourself in and release the hold you had with your one hand ( that were compressing the extender). Then you should get a good tug and a good tension. If the extender reads the first line and you would want more tension, you adjust the screws on each rod.
Later on, when you have achieved gains and your penis has gotten longer, you will have to either adjust the screws more to get the same tention, ( since your penis has gotten longer compared to the extender ), or put in some small rods to the extender to keep up with the gains.
If however, you find that the extender reads max tension, and you don’t want to go so hard, you’ll have to put together a shorter extender, so that it pulls with less tension when released.

Good luck, and feel free to ask if there’s anything you wanders about, but there is a search option to use, since almost every topic and trouble has bern covered before.

Norwegian wood.

Originally Posted by commercial
I also have another question:

1. When do you adjust the extender to the desired tension after you initially put the attachment all together? Is it when straight out, or when downward? I notice that if I adjust the tension while straight out to let’s say 2 bar lines then position it downward, the tension becomes 1.5 bar lines when read

It’s going to vary for each guy, depending on what the natural angle of his erection is and exactly how his penile and surrounding tissues are shaped.

For me, at any given length, the least amount of tension is approximately the same angle as my fully erect state. Bending either upward or downward from there increases the tension.

I vary the angle between different cessions and sometimes during the cession, so that the internal structures are stretched from various angles. I usually get into the thing with minimal tension, maybe less than 500g, and just let it go wherever it wants to naturally for 5 mintues or so, to let everything stretch out, get settled into place, and make sure the noose or strap is fit and gripping well. Then I’ll adjust it outward to just above the 500g lines and let that sit for maybe 10 minutes. I’ll then either go up to 1000g and keep adjusting out to maintain at least 1000g or leave it at the lower tension [and for a longer time before I get numbness] and adjust to different angles.

Thanks for this thread, there’s certainly a lot of contributions. I’m only a few days on to using an extender and not entirely sure if I’m getting it right. There’s definitely a stretch, but the noose is cutting into my glans a bit (although not painful), and there are three lines showing on the rods. However, no matter how I adjust the screws or the hexagonal rods, the tension does not seem to change. Maybe it’s just a matter of playing around with it.


Dcla

Starting: 8th Nov 2018: BPEL 5 1/4; MSEG 4 3/8; BPFL 3 5/8; MSFG 3 7/8

Originally Posted by dcla
Thanks for this thread, there’s certainly a lot of contributions. I’m only a few days on to using an extender and not entirely sure if I’m getting it right. There’s definitely a stretch, but the noose is cutting into my glans a bit (although not painful), and there are three lines showing on the rods. However, no matter how I adjust the screws or the hexagonal rods, the tension does not seem to change. Maybe it’s just a matter of playing around with it.

Add another 0.25” to the extender bars then adjust the screws out. Continue to do this until you begin to see an increase in tension to at least the first index line.


Once upon a time (2015): 6.40” x 4.50”

Today: 7.25” x 5.00”, Thunder Cocks Unite!

I think we can...Little Engine’s Climb

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
Add another 0.25” to the extender bars then adjust the screws out. Continue to do this until you begin to see an increase in tension to at least the first index line.

Thanks, I’ll try that.


Dcla

Starting: 8th Nov 2018: BPEL 5 1/4; MSEG 4 3/8; BPFL 3 5/8; MSFG 3 7/8

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