PE4F High Pressure Pumping: thoughtfulgold

Who are you telling? This is some of the intangible data that supports why there are so many guys who ONLY PUMP, who pump to extreme levels for pleasure and why everyone who has tried this method of pumping loves it despite the absolutely huge risk factors. It has always defied logic in my eyes but this could be the missing piece, that X-factor that puts it all in perspective.

It’s incredible since I’ve never pumped for pleasure and haven’t cum in a tube. I doubt I will cum in a tube from this but…post session euphoria is still absolutely huge for me, considering my years of pumping with no after effects post session anything like this.

Initially every PE method sounded crazy to me. Clamping wtf!? Hanging omg!?? Pumping ,tigertraps who in their right mind your all out of their minds. These whisperings of PE4F take the cake. It’s the craziest and most insane sounding thing yet. Maybe next year lol.

I remember when *clamping was kinda new. I was just starting in mid 2009 when I heard whispers, it got acceptance and debate in 2010 and people like Big Girtha fought for it up till 2012 when it seemed well-established what clamping could do.

I feel old now. *chuckles*

I spoke with another member via personal message regarding some of the high pressure pumping techniques that you can use. One of his tips includes “milking the tube” to emphasize girth gains. For those of you unfamiliar with the term it merely means grabbing and pulling tube away from your body after initiating substantial pressure and keeping the seal intact. One of the downfalls of milking of a tube is that it unpredictably will raise pressure. However, given the pressures that we are already working with and the fact that they pretty much crest towards the maximum amount of pressure that can be experienced, the milking of the tube only serves to keep the tube from biting into your pelvis. Basically the milking of the tube can likely serve as a padding substitute. Which brings me to my 2” cylinder plan.

I have not drilled that cylinder yet but when I warmed up with it I packed it pretty well up to about the mid-shaft. This was expected as my left CC does not fully inflate. However while pressurized in the tube my penis was mostly straight, which was also expected. I was unsure if using extreme pressures in a tube this tight would be a good idea. I still am not 100% sure that it is a good idea. However, I continue to theorize exactly how I can provoke mid-shaft inflation above all things. It would appear that the 2.25” tube that I’m using won’t provoke mid-shaft inflation as well as the 2” will and the 2” puts my entire penis under stress while molding it straight. So perhaps using the 2” tube as a mold I can create an optimum straightening scenario. A tube of this diameter will not increase my girth very much due to the fit but that is not my primary concern, especially given exactly why I bought this tube.

So my theory is that milking the 2” cylinder will create a scenario that will get my left CC to inflate more than usual but not an excessive amount like it would in the 2.25” cylinder if I was able to emphasize mid-shaft expansion in that cylinder with the same amount of ease. That inflation should provoke some straightening in a gradual enough way to be safe. I want to slowly provoke growth in my left CC not create a scenario where I cause myself damage, akin to a rupture or other CC structural failure. So the purchase of the 2” tube is not a waste as I previously presumed. Vital experimentation can and will take place with it. I look forward to my recovery from my glans burn so that I can look into this further.

Theoretically as long as you can seal with the base of your penis you can use any tube in a PE4F format. However I will not be using a 2.5” anytime soon. That seems like it would provoke greater base girth gains and more traffic cone shape to my shaft than I actually want.

Though, if dickershwanz reads this, I would recommend using a wide tube in your case and perhaps considering this high pressure method if you are still seeking the traffic cone shape. A tube where you only seal 2” or 3” up from the base and milking it with these pressures may offer the emphasis you seek. An elliptical tube in this case may be key to getting maximum base girth.

A little encouragement: I just want to go on record saying that I “corrected” a pronounced left curve over the years. I do credit pumping.

I started out with a left CC that wasn’t as developed as my right CC. Over time w PE, the left CC more or less caught up to the right CC. Curve gone, pretty much straight.

I really didn’t try to correct the curve. I can’t tell you what I did. I do remember however that a guy at LPSG convinced me to purchase a size down from my “normal” tube size when I purchased my first elliptical cylinder several years ago. So maybe that thing was acting as a “mold” as you’ve theorized.

Not my thread but another pumper:

Almost corrected my curve

The most key questions for a data guy like myself are simple, if you could answer them.

What kind of pressure range did you use? Approximation is fine.

"Several years" is what approximate range of time?

I’ll see what I can do to reconstruct it. Going through old pics and reading through a couple old logs anyway so will report back what I can.

That is all I can ask. Thank you sta-kool.

Re the endorphin release, that is natural after physical stress (pain) or psychological stress. It’s likely you had a bit of both when pumping for the first time at high force with the potential dangers. :)

Re your tube sizing, I think the 2” tube looks perfect based on your pumped photos. You only need a tiny airgap, and in fact that increases your safety margin because with high force pumping it is possible to injure your tunica if you pump too large (compared to your normal tunica girth).

You are venturing into new ground, it’s not like pumping with low force and waiting half an hour for the skin to bloat up massive full of water and “pack” the tube. High force pumping can place huge stretch force on your tunica within seconds. And yes, using higher force levels in a fitted tube will work well to straighten a penis.

I don’t like to say too much about me, but I have some years experience with high and medium force pumping (I’m pump-only PEer) and if you don’t mind I can chime in from time to time. There’s something of an underground movement of higher-force gains focused pumpers who dislike the fetish pumper “bloat boys” that dominate some forums. I have a feeling that gains focused pumping is about to go more mainstream…

I knew there is more to you when I read your other posts ;)
I think this thread could be the start of rehabilitating high pressure pumping for pe.

Sometimes it is difficult to write about extreme or borderline concepts for experienced pe guys as newbies try to recreate routines without proper conditioning or overlooking important details.
PE4F High pressure pumping done wrong will lead to severe injuries.

That is why I like Thoughtfulgolds and Bearded Dragons experiments (as it is not (!) a senseless “more is more” pumping routine forcing lymph fluids).

Nevertheless everybody shouldn’t forget that low-pressure pumping works well (see Titleist and many others) and it should be done beforehand to condition properly in my opinion.

I will contribute in the future with a similar approach (using a manual pump, tight fit cylinder, IR light, tunica unlocking and water-pumping).

Thx to all of you for sharing .

I wasn’t terribly stressed but I know it was fair stress on the unit. However I’m eager to continue. I doubt that’s just physical.

I figured as much. I mentioned that in my 2” tube theory that I wanted a safe level of expansion. Especially if I’m going to milk the tube. I plan on working it most when I’m well, depending on how it goes. I’ve been looking at different routine options and using the 2” for heavier days and the 2.25” on the lighter days. Working it on longer pulses with the 2” and milking and sticking with 1 second pulses on lighter days in the 2.25”

I have more proof that it works to straighten a curve. My theories and years of research is working finally to fix this. I’m motivated.

Chime in if you like. Anything to elucidate this process for me and those that come after. I look forward to you assisting me.

Be good if you could elaborate on this a bit.
I spent years testing different pump methods including electric dynamic pumping with no results.

Ok from going through my pics and logs it seems my curve got corrected during 2015. I was doing a variation on gprent’s incremental pump routine:

Incremental Pump Routine Results

He had given me a “beta version” while he was developing it. Which I modified, covered here:

sta-kool - sta-kool’s Icicle Diary Vol. 5

Hope this is helpful.

On Edit: I forgot to note that I do mention putting a tube one size below normal in rotation around this time. So I was using my regular 1.75” tube but also using a 1.5” thickwall. So definitely an undersized cylinder involved in this.

Should also note I most always pump with a heating pad wrapped around the cylinder.

Hey TG if you can correct your curve through a pumping routine I’d guess you’d add at least .25”, maybe as much as .5” to your length.

Which is already super long.

Good luck with the pumping.

Also, I hope that recent burn heals quickly for you.

I think it will be. I’m conditioned for those pressures. However using a similar increasing pattern and duration proportionally (but effectively shorter in a PE4F format) per pressure setting may be the key. I’ve seen other similar routines work. Titleist mentioned a similar setup during his long term pumping where correction seemed to happen.

The tight tube appears to be key and now, looking at what you did I have a rubric for pumping on my heavy days here in PE4F style.

Partly cuz I’ve got this project running and I want to experiment and partly cuz it gives me good vibes to combine your idea and this one since my penis has been so incredibly resistant to that pressure range in the past for a long time.

I cannot thank you enough for sharing this. Your data showcases a trend I can understand and use.

You are an inspiration to the very central goal I had when starting PE that I stated on the first page of my first Progress Log.