Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

I recommend you to work with the thermocouples. They are accurate and such a device really does not cost much.

Without US gel you will not be able to work, these pads do not help either. You alway need gel. Also, you don’t need a pad between the transducer and the shaft (ventral, lower side). Finally, you need to get used to the mess :)
I have found the solution for me with a silicone phantom. This is durable until it is too short for the longer penis. But that is then a pleasant reason to replace it.
Details can be found in Kyrpa’s thread: US Phantom made of silicone.

The setup is kind of like yours, only I use the pad instead of my hand. So viewed from above:
- Silicone phantom (dorsal)
- US gel (optionally with thermocouples)
- penis
- US gel
- transducer (ventral)

The task of the US pad is to avoid a standing wave. It looks like this: reflections.JPG
But it is important that phantom must be on the top of the penis. The scheme shown in the picture is only to explain the principle, but not the arrangement on the penis.
Since you are working with 1 MHz, you have to place the transducer on the bottom side (ventral). But this works really well.

If you want to know more of the theory, you can find this info here: Heating problems with extender users

The US gel makes the pad “stick” a bit. It holds by itself and does not need any further fixation.

If you don’t like a DIY solution, you can of course buy a pad like you suggested and use it dorsally. If, like me, you still want to support with IR, then I don’t know if the pads can withstand that. The silicone phantom can.

Thanks Rocco

I just can’t seem to get consistent heat with the US Pro

I’m wondering if I will have better luck with the soundcare plus dual 1mhz and 3mhz machine that has two transducer heads including a smaller one. I think a smaller transducer head may help, and also, it would be nice to have a higher grade machine with more power and the 3mhz option as well.

It is not the US.

Do it over the leg and measure temperature to test it out. Buying a more expensive machine is not going to make a difference if your setup is leaking the sound waves. 3Mhz might make it easier, but I wouldn’t waste that money just to try it out and have the same result.

Work on getting a proper backing medium first before you buy another machine, and also if you are heating with your penis straight out or straight down, how are you measuring temperature?

Igigi, I fully agree with your comments!

@BP73
It’s not the device. Try to follow the instructions given here and you will succeed with your material.
Just to double check: you are using the US pro 2ND EDITION with 1,6 W/cm2?

It’s taken me over a month to get more consistent at getting the right temperature using 2 US Pros. I have to get the right amount of gel, everything stretched the right amount, thermosisters placed correctly, and positioning correctly. If I get it just right, everything heats relatively quickly, then sometimes I shift slightly and I get nothing. Sometimes I’ll try for 20 minutes to get it to heat up and I keep floating at 38 degrees. There’s definitely a learning curve. That being said, I’ve had next to zero change in length after heating properly. Any change in length usually seems to be due to my glans being swollen from the vacuum of the ADS. Unfortunately, the suction device and silicone hood covers the top 1/3 of my shaft, so it might be that I can’t heat enough to make much of a difference, but like I said, I’ve really had next to zero change in the 2 months of trying this. :(

It may be that you can generate good heat with 2 transducers. As a beginner, you should start with one first and see how you get along. I think the added value of the second transducer is lost due to poor handling. If everything goes well, you can always add the second one.
In my case, one transducer was sufficient in conjunction with a silicone phantom and IR as support. As long as this works well, I will not add a second transducer. Why should I?

To prevent the transducer from going into over-temperature protection (caused by IR), I desoldered the internal thermocouple from the PCB of the transducer.

In my case, a part of the shaft is also covered with silicone sleeve of the ADS. In the area of the shaft I use US gel between the shaft and the silicone sleeve to increase the conductivity. This works quite well.

Anyone mind giving me their opinion of my routine using ultrasound heat.

First exercise - Bundled stretches:
- 10 minutes twisting left (increasing twist tension as penis stretches) | Using 3MHz Ultrasound
- 10 minutes twisting right (increasing twist tension as penis stretches) | Using 3MHz Ultrasound

Second exercise - Clamping
- 20 minutes | Using 3MHz Ultrasound

Warm down - Retaining clamp & masturbation with Fleshlight
- 10-20 minutes | No Ultrasound used

I’m currently measuring [BP] 7.75 * 4.75 (at my smallest girth point.) My ideal size is 8.5 * 6. As you can see, my main issue is girth and its the hardest thing to gain. I’m purely doing PE for girth at the moment and as far as I’m seeing, I’m gaining nothing. Wondering if girth is actually possible for me.

In what scientific studies is your routines based for girth under Ultrasound? The purpose we are currently using US is not related with girth, and your routine has no resemblance with the effective routine layout by Kyrpa

Can you describe your full setup and routine?
What is your current BPFSL and BPEL?

(1) what machine are you using that has 3mhz as an option?

(2) how can you tell (how sure are you) the 3mhz you are using is giving you sufficient heat?

My advice is to stop gatekeeping usage of ultrasound like you’re some kind of prophet, I’ve been lurking on this thread for a while and you’ve done nothing but suck on Kyrpa’s balls and idolised his every word since the beginning - if it isn’t apparent to everyone else, its definitely apparent to me, and it needs to stop. We are all trying different things to see what works and that will continue to happen for as long as men on this forum have penises.

Don’t quote scientific studies like they’re gospel, useful yes, they point us in the right direction, but everyone is different and current ‘research’ (if you can call sticking a thermometer down your urethra, research) is sparse. “the purpose we are currently using US is not related with girth” — yeah sure, lets just never do it then because your defeatist, reserved mindset said so - fuck progress right?

Furthermore “your routine has no resemblance with the effective routine layout by Kyrpa” - again sucking on that sweet Kyrpa scrotum, has it ever dawned on you that trying different things is how progress is made? Have you ever thought that maybe, if there is evidence (albeit weak in relation to PE context) that ultrasound will work, its worth testing that boundary?

Next time you feel like you want to drain Kyrpa’s balls into another one of your bureaucratic, procedural messages designed to gatekeep ultrasound usage, do me a favour - shut off your computer.

.. To anyone else that wants to contribute to my message, feel free - looking to get an idea for who else is attempting girth workouts with US and what routine you use.

1)Its the Chattanooga Intelect Mobile Ultrasound, the Chattanooga Intelect Mobile Ultrasound is a dual frequency ultrasound therapy machine.

After a manufacturing period of 2004 to 2020, Chattanooga Intelect Mobile Ultrasound 2776 is now out of production. Chattanooga Intelect Mobile 2 Ultrasound is the successor.

2) I’ll go with ‘how sure am I’ as I can’t tell for sure, I’m following the generalised principle that we reach 39-43C after 10 minutes, however I’m using my hand as a backing medium when clamping and my leg whilst doing bundled stretches.

I can definitely feel the heat progress as my workout continues, however I feel it cool very quickly. I never feel much heat on superficial skin unless that part of skin is in contact with the transducer and even then, the gel is normally cold so I don’t feel it much. I was thinking of establishing a high room temperature to prevent heat energy transfer from penis to air and therefore reduce rapid cooling so more of the penis would stay beyond 39-43C.

BPFSL 18.1 cm
BPEL 16.51 cm

I do my treatment on my bed. I have a belt attached to a night stand, a carabiner attached to that, then a digital scale attached to that, which is attached to my vacuum head ADS hanger. I have my shaft hanging over my left legend rotated so that my dorsal side is down/ventral side up. US gel between my leg and shaft, and over my shaft too. I have 2 transducer leads that I place under the dorsal side of the shaft. I don’t tape them, but as I’m treating, I check several times to make sure they haven’t shifted position too much. I warm up with 30 minutes in my Restorex, but I don’t activate the springs, so it just puts a consistent tension using the rods, but nothing really “active”. After that, I start my US therapy for 20 minutes. I monitor the tension I place using the scale, trying to keep it on the lower side of 4-5 lbs. I did that for a month with little to show, so now I start with thee 5 lbs or so, and increase tension after I’m at 40 degrees so that I’m at about 8-10 lbs. After my 20 minute under US, I maintain the tension for 10 minutes before removing everything and measuring. I regularly measure between 18.0-18.2 cm before everything and maybe 18.5 cm after, but as I said, there’s swelling from the vacuum head of the ADS, so the extra 3-4mm could just be due to that swelling.

The invective in this comment is going to get you a ban, I think. I do agree that I think we can and perhaps should start to think about a safe US protocol for girth, working under the same norms that have led to all other PE approaches, but on the other hand US is a potentially dangerously powerful technology and probably requires a more careful approach that we haven’t tended to see from members other than kyrpa or manko.

That said, you can’t be getting personal like this with other members of the forum. Igigi is here to be helpful and has only ever been patient and generous with his contributions. I understand getting frustrated but if you can’t be civil you’ll very likely be shown the door.

You can disagree with and challenge any member. Do it without the insults and personal attacks.

You are now on one week hold.

Do it again and you will be out.