Hanging 101

Yes. Excellent thread. How did I miss it? :) Added to favourites!

Thanks firegoat! :D

I have heard some contradicting views on this. Maybe an experienced VAC hanger will be willing to clarify for us. Here’s my attempt to explain this based on my understanding:

There are those who believe that even with VAC hanging, 20 minutes should be the maximum length of a set. I think this is probably a good idea for someone who has just started VAC hanging. This will probably help keep blisters and fluid buildup to a minimum and give your body time to adapt.

As your body adjusts to VAC hanging, you might feel like your circulation remains good enough during a set to increase the time beyond 20 minutes. How long can a VAC hanging set be? I don’t know.

Some guys use VAC hanging or VAC extenders for extremely long periods of time, and some complain that eventually they got a raised whitish circle on their glans (i.e. there may be negative long term consequences to extending VAC hanging sets beyond 20 or 30 minutes). I’ll take a shot in the dark and guess that perhaps a lack of circulation is the cause for this (however, I am not sure).

I believe you will mostly feel fatigue in whatever is your next most limiting factor. Sometimes I feel fatigue near my pubic bone, sometimes I feel it at the attachment point. Sometimes I feel fatigue in the middle of my shaft (perhaps near where my suspensory ligaments attach to some fascia). Logic tells me that whatever my next weakest tissues are will be the place where I feel fatigue next.

Assuming you’ve chosen a good angle of attack (and it appears that way to me), I don’t think you should worry too much about where you feel fatigue; I think the focus should just be on reaching fatigue. Some guys don’t gain until they exceed 5lbs or 10lbs; I think that partly depends on how much previous PE experience you have. If you didn’t do much before hanging, you wont need as much weight to start reaching fatigue and start making gains. When I started hanging, I was able to make gains in the 2.5lb to the 5lb range, but that’s probably the exception more than the rule.

SD and BTC are excellent for targeting your suspensory ligaments. If you have shifted your package so your penis exits your pelvis straight down, its possible you’ve maximized your suspensory ligaments and you may get more benefit from other angles. Of course, you’ve only been hanging a few weeks, so its too soon to tell.

Effectively, we continue making microtears, stretching, deformation and possibly causing some mitosis too as we work on our angle of attack (in your case BTC and SD). As long as you reach fatigue you’re doing it right… During the first few weeks you’ll just be going through an adjustment period, but after that you should be able to reach fatigue each session.

Always strive to reach fatigue by the first or second set, then ride it in subsequent sets (reducing the weight as needed). If you don’t feel an urgent need to reduce the weight then you have not reached fatigue. Once you do reach fatigue, don’t be shy about reducing the weight (always avoid sharp pain). If you reach fatigue and ride it daily, and you’re hanging 10 hours+ per week, the gains will come.

Thanks Blink.

You are very helpful on this forum.

Yes, I do have the whitish circle after long hours of wearing the vac cap. I believe it is due to fluid build up. I actually noticed that my tip has been raised a bit because of this, which makes my gland a bit longer (and bigger). I hope the shape stays that way, but not the darker ring around the tip of the gland.

When I posted under this forum, I just started my hanging. I am into my 3rd week and I have to take a break. I think 5-6 sets a day with 3-6 hours of ADS and jelqing between washroom breaks and sets have finally exhausted my unit. I can feel the soreness on both sides of the penis. The most sore area is within 1 inch from the gland where the sleeve attaches to. I believe the lack of better circulation has caused swollen in this area.

So to answer my own question, I do need to take 5-10 minute break between sets. As weight increases, the penis is being stretched out more which creates less circulation going into the gland and the gripping area.

Man, I am so type A personality. Whenever I wanna do something I give it 100%. But penis workout is not like body workout where intensity is needed. When I re-started my newbie routine in May, I was so dedicated and over-worked my unit. The result was two bumps and a donut right under the gland (hard guitar-like string). I was doing way too much and pulling way too hard. I had to take a break. Then I resumed PE with lesser and more consistent approach with ADS and hanging. I started out well, but eventually led to swollen and sensitive gland. Break time again. ARrrrrr…

I have so much time on hand to do PE.. it’s too easy for me to over train.

Re-think. Re-group. Re-SULT!

That`s some good stuff. You`ve put a lot of work into that. People attempting to start hanging will find this very useful.

For me though this is the most interesting statement.
“Scar tissue or the collagen your body uses to repair your tissues has a tendency to retract and pull in.”

Is there any source to confirm this statement? I`ve been working on that topic for a while now but no source I`ve come across so far ever mentioned scar tissue being smaller, shorter, pulling in or retracting. The opposite is stated in all the articles I`ve read about wound healing and scar tissue. The scare tissue always has been said to be thicker, more bold etc.

The purpose of scar tissue is to pull two healing edges together, hence it contracts.

There you go :D

How should there be permanent growth at all then? I`m not talking about simple stretching but permanent lengthening. If any micro injury leads to contraction that results in shorter tissue it’s impossible to grow permanently at all? Unless we are actually stretching the scare tissue that is still building up?

As far as I got it, the injury gap had been pumped with fibroblasts that lead to an actual growth of the new tissue within the former injury gap, just later the scare tissue contracts but still the contracted scare tissue is bigger in size than the replaced tissue.

This is a very scientific question—there are many threads dedicated to stretching and creep vs hypertrophy, etc.

That`s true. I think I`ve read them all or at least most of them. Still none of it could answer that very question. No one ever could tell me how growth actually takes place. I`ve been talking to a friend at the biochemist department of UCLA. She couldn`t refer to any study on how permanent lengthening does take place once sub failure damage has been done to soft tissue like collagen. That`s why I asked for your source actually.

Loading, lengthening, healing. Absolutely huge thread full of the best scientific theories.

More thoughts on how growth occurs. My thoughts on the subject.

Possible reason for PE induced growth Lots more ideas.

Connective tissue- FIRST "THREAD OF THE YEAR" Another good thread.

The Penis (smooth) Muscle Theory An alternative theory.

Penile stress/strain relationship And yet another good thread.

My selection of the best threads on the subject. :)

PE is a not top down driven hard science filled with clinical trials. It’s a bottom up grass roots movement, created by men willing to experiment on themselves to achieve the goal of increased penis size. There are clinical trials with devices like extenders (where there’s a financial motive). Unfortunately, this also puts both the trials and the results into question. There is PE science out there, but it’s outside the scope of this thread.

This thread is more about the ‘how’ (hanging), and less on the ‘why’ (science).

Edit: firegoat gave a better answer already.

Yea I don`t want to hijack this thread. Yet the “why” leads to the “how”. And as you said, this is more like a grassroots thing so I think discussion always is the best way to come across new ideas. I will read again through the threads you mentioned Firegoat. I think there is 2 that are new to me. So thanks for that. Maybe the knowledge I`ve gained since will add up now.

I’m new to hanging, been on it for about two weeks. Just recently in one of my sessions, I got this strange feeling deep inside my stomach, at a very low point. It was scary, it didn’t hurt but it felt… strange. Is this the “jackpot”? Meaning was this me hitting fatigue or what?

I can’t say for sure, maybe someone else can.